MrTbone
All A-10 player
We stopped asking after we were 10
Games in. He’s been relegated to Neptune as far as I can tell.
2026-27 roster needs
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Games in. He’s been relegated to Neptune as far as I can tell.
One thing about this board, is while the won loss record has us down, the posts on here can still get a chuckle out of you.
It will be seen. Didn’t anyone mention why he was in street clothes?
*23*
Assistant coach
The new insider said back injury and probably not returning.
Crazy that it takes an insider to share this. Why would we keep this so quiet? Makes no sense.
MrTbone
All A-10 player
It makes zero sense. If nothing else I’d think you’d want it on record that he was injured so he could apply for a medical redshirt.
*23*
Assistant coach
Right just like everything with this fake regime, the information they share or don't share makes no sense. After McGlothin is gone they will probably blame him for erasing the voicemail from the JMU coaches off the cassette tape answering machine in the basketball office.
*23*
Assistant coach
This is the hard reality for these young men now. Getting paid tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars in addition to a free education, per diems, and all the other perks, you better be able to play to your worth now. And coaches need to make room for productive players. I'm not crazy about the system but as a coach you have to adapt.
Spider17
Assistant coach
And I wouldn’t feel bad as a head coach. These kids are getting a free education plus 10s of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to play a sport. If you’re not producing then there should be no guarantee that you get as much NIL or more and if anything could get considerably less.
Now, if guys like Tanner and Tyne still want to stay and complete their UR degrees here despite not getting any NIL or very little, I absolutely would honor the scholarship. I don’t think it would be right to kick some one off a scholarship when they’re about to finish their degree, especially if they are willing to stay with no NIL or very little NIL. In this day and age, that’s very commendable.
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Spiders4ever
Starter
Demotions and pay cuts. Happens all the time.
The “free education” doesn’t really ring true to me if a player is at a school for one year. Many credits don’t transfer, so basically these guys are giving up the getting a degree portion unless they go to a college that barely has an academic reputation. There are definitely players who are perfectly happy with this arrangement I am sure, but I don’t think this really applies to players that transfer from UR.
*23*
Assistant coach
I feel like the transferring credits is getting worked out for these guys. Do you think AJ and Johnstin and Daughtry didnt get to bring their precious credits?
I have no idea how it works but guessing that gets smoothed over just like everything else. kind of like last guy that I saw ruled academically ineligible was Chad Baker-Mazara 3 or 4 years ago at SDSU.
I have no idea how it works but guessing that gets smoothed over just like everything else. kind of like last guy that I saw ruled academically ineligible was Chad Baker-Mazara 3 or 4 years ago at SDSU.
sman
All A-10 player
we're substantially upping our NIL. we need to used the increase wisely. so guys who aren't big time performers certainly don't need increases. increases go to AA and transfer targets this year.
but it's not like Tyne and Tanner were riding the bench. both averaged 18+ mpg. they'll keep their NIL.
Spiders4ever
Starter
Averaged 18+ minutes on a bad team. Should they keep it?
97spiderfan
All A-10 player
Why would they keep their NIL? Why do we want them on the team next year? Slash their NIL if they want to stay here, we don't owe them anything more than their schollie. If they get pissed, say bye, the portal is right there, go see what you can get elsewhere. We should not be paying players above their market rate, if they aren't helping us win games, which Tyne and Tanner are not.
Eight Legger
Starter
Agreed. But of course Mooney would want to reward guys based on how long they stay here -- as he has publicly proclaimed -- as opposed to rewarding them for their on-court contributions: He himself has been rewarded the same way! It's all he knows.
"Richmond Basketball: Stay for a long time and keep getting paid. (Performance optional)"
"Richmond Basketball: Stay for a long time and keep getting paid. (Performance optional)"
Why? Our goal should be to get enough talent in here so Tyne and Tanner aren't playing 18 mpg.
Spider17
Assistant coach
Thinking about it more, here’s my final position on this (for now).
On one hand, I want us to take our NIL seriously. Ideally I do not want a single penny to be misspent and that we maximize what we have in the most efficient manner.
On the other hand, I do recognize that even players who aren’t meaningful contributors on a D1 roster at an A10 school or above are going to get at least some NIL. It would be a bad look for us recruiting wise if we had the reputation of taking away a player’s NIL completely, especially right before their senior year. I even do agree with Mooney to an extent, that a player who’s been here longer should have an increase, to some extent, relative to how they started and the value they bring.
The key here is that it is relative and proportional to what they bring to the table. So for instance, Argabright should get a substantial increase next year. Tyne and Tanner should get maybe like 5K extra or something. Sort of like how a job gives annual raises for inflation but not as much as a raise for a promotion would be.
The other important piece in all of this, is if we overvalued someone’s NIL when they fist arrived does not mean we should continue that. This probably applies more for a transfer but if a player came here as a 2 year transfer and we thought he was going to contribute a lot and gave initial NIL thinking it would reflect that. If he did not contribute meaningfully reflective of that amount, in no way is he entitled to the same amount next year. He should get less and if he doesn’t like it, can transfer.
At the end of the day, I really just want our staff to use the NIL we have and allocate the funds appropriately, while being fair and respectful about it. You’re right in that if someone is getting like 50K NIL, it’s not really a big deal in the big scheme of things (especially with a considerable increase in payroll next season) if we bumped it to $60K as a sign of good faith for staying here even if they aren’t a big contributor. I just don’t want us to overpay players because we are afraid to have the difficult conversations with them about decreasing or at least not increasing their NIL.
I also want our staff to not be afraid to spend big on players too and it’s okay if we have 3-4 guys on the roster that make considerably more than others. That’s how the real world works. Either a player can work hard to improve their NIL value here or at another school, be happy with what they have, or transfer. It’s that simple.
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sman
All A-10 player
I'm saying everyone on the roster is making NIL money. some here love to bash Tyne and Tanner as if they aren't valuable members of the team. whether you agree or not, the coaches who see them every day value them enough to play them 18+ mpg. they aren't end of the bench guys.
if we're paying out $1.8M, then most are probably getting no less than $100k. if we're raising that to $4M+, you can still have guys at $100k with stars getting more. if you replace guys at the A10 level, you'll be paying replacement guys $100k+ for bench players.
I hope we bring in players good enough to more Tanner and Tyne out of the starting lineup, but I'm pretty sure if they stay they'll still be in the rotation.
if we're paying out $1.8M, then most are probably getting no less than $100k. if we're raising that to $4M+, you can still have guys at $100k with stars getting more. if you replace guys at the A10 level, you'll be paying replacement guys $100k+ for bench players.
I hope we bring in players good enough to more Tanner and Tyne out of the starting lineup, but I'm pretty sure if they stay they'll still be in the rotation.
