Rotation and Minutes

I think Walz's development from freshman year is outstanding. still remember PhillySpider tempering our expectations early based on seeing him multiple times in high school. he's a much better player than I expected he'd become.
I think his development freshmand and soph year was good. Last season it stalled. And looks about the same this season. I think he gets a lot of credit because he speaks like a 40 year old professor.
 
but would bet there are at least 3 to 4 a game where he forces a pass and either A) gets overlooked as turnover, or B) the guy trying to corral it gets the turnover. In my book he caused the turnover.
wait, you think at least 3 or 4 times PER GAME the statisticians are missing Walz turnovers???
 
I think his development freshmand and soph year was good. Last season it stalled. And looks about the same this season. I think he gets a lot of credit because he speaks like a 40 year old professor.
I guess we can question when the development occurred, but he played 47 minutes his entire freshman season and scored 0.7 ppg.
he was mostly a non-factor as a soph, too.

last year he became a good A10 center, and he's pretty much the same guy now. shooting is down a bit, rebounding up a bit.
 
wait, you think at least 3 or 4 times PER GAME the statisticians are missing Walz turnovers???
reading comprehension, Sman - a couple a game are passes to overly contested players that end up turning it over - so its kind of like the hockey assist in reverse almost.
 
I guess we can question when the development occurred, but he played 47 minutes his entire freshman season and scored 0.7 ppg.
he was mostly a non-factor as a soph, too.

last year he became a good A10 center, and he's pretty much the same guy now. shooting is down a bit, rebounding up a bit.
I just am not seeing impact on the game. I saw him very slow to react on defense a few times, and again the passing is trying to hard to thread the needle many times. I thought he looked pretty good soph year - but he was in a completely different role and did not have as much pressure to perform.
 
reading comprehension, Sman - a couple a game are passes to overly contested players that end up turning it over - so its kind of like the hockey assist in reverse almost.
we'll agree to disagree. stats guys are pretty good. if he throws a pass that should be handled, the guy receiving gets the turnover. but if it's the passer's fault they give it to the passer.

and it sure seemed like you were saying 3 or 4 time per game he's not getting credited for turnovers that he's causing ... so adding those to his 2 TO's per game he's really at 5 or 6?

seems a stretch.
 
In fairness to 23, Walz has attempted only 34 shots in 8 games. 17 2s and 17 3s. Being a 4th year guy, it would be nice to see a little more aggressiveness and production offensively.
Walz and Beagle need to take some of the open jumpers just to keep the defense from collasping into the lane every time they have the
ball at the top of the key.
 
that or hit thr open wing who can shoot, or step up and shoot the teardrop, or take it to the hoop. In short the more options, the harder to defend.
I would love to see more take it to the hoop. 2 out of 3 positives with that..score, draw a foul, or miss. If guarded 1 on 1 without a double team, a big needs to do that several times a game.
 
Walz and Beagle need to take some of the open jumpers just to keep the defense from collasping into the lane every time they have the
ball at the top of the key.
Waltz 3 points and Beagle 4 last night. Pretty minimal. 9 boards between them is good, but is it expecting too much for our center position to score double digits every game with 2 seniors? Luckily last night we had others step up in scoring, but that may not be the case every game. I'm not seeing a consistency like we had with TJ, Grant, & Quinn. But this is center position & biggest players on floor. Double digits please. And yes, I realize there are other metrics that go along with a player's contributions.
 
In fairness to 23, Walz has attempted only 34 shots in 8 games. 17 2s and 17 3s. Being a 4th year guy, it would be nice to see a little more aggressiveness and production offensively.
The aggressiveness vs. passiveness debate I'm fully on board with. I agree he's too passive / to deferential at this point in his career. I distinguish that from "has he developed?" and I think for the later the answer is unequivocally yes.
 
I don’t know if I would call Walz playing passive, but I would definitely agree that he looks to be a facilitator more than a scorer, which tends to lead to some forced plays. I can understand though. He’s a 4th year player under Mooney’s system so looking for back door cuts or other pass plays has probably been engrained in his mind at this point.

You can tell Lopez, Johnston, and Daughtry were scorers on their team (not as much sample size for Thomas at DePaul but has shown he can score here) because of the confidence they have attacking the basket or shooting long range 3’s.

I’m glad that Mooney this year has tried to not force those guys into the Princeton offense system while they’re here for one year. That seemed like the biggest problem last year, where everyone was too timid to make a play and kept just moving the ball around. We’re playing to our guys’ strengths and it shows. I like this new identity of Richmond basketball and hope it sticks.
 
Also one of the threads commented on our transfer success. Credit to Mooney and staff for bringing in a great transfer class who all have made meaningful contributions, complement each other well, and play unselfish basketball; all while bringing a new identity of physicality and aggressiveness. Even Beagle has taken a big step this year.

Our high school recruiting though has been sub par and that is problematic. Argabright is a home run recruit. Tyne and Walz have been solid but not game changers like a Gilly/SDJ/KA/K0 or TJ/Grant kind of players. The foundation needs to be in getting good high school recruits and then filing in with transfers where needed. Right now we’re too reliant on transfers.

This is why there can be such variability in our results. One year we can win A10, the next year we have 8 D1 wins. This is not the kind of stability I think anyone wants and certainly not how you build a successful program.
 
I'm not sure about the physicality part. Belmont seemed more physical last night, we out shot them. Beagle and Walz are a lot more effective afmgainst the liwer ranked teams. We know the low majors are bottom feeders for talent in this NIL world. I do like the offensive aggressiveness. I think we are running the same offense, we just have multiple guards that are using it to get shots and opportunities, as opposed to being a robot and looking for the next pass. And the next until the shot clock was at 5 seconds
 
Waltz 3 points and Beagle 4 last night. Pretty minimal. 9 boards between them is good, but is it expecting too much for our center position to score double digits every game with 2 seniors? Luckily last night we had others step up in scoring, but that may not be the case every game. I'm not seeing a consistency like we had with TJ, Grant, & Quinn. But this is center position & biggest players on floor. Double digits please. And yes, I realize there are other metrics that go along with a player's contributions.
The optimum word is “consistency “ and Beagle is probably having a better performance so far in OOC than Walz.
Mike just seems a little off in his game from last year. Don’t know if the shoulder or back is bothering him but would
love to see him get more aggressive.
 
What's interesting to me is that Walz looks way more comfortable taking a top of the key 3 pointer or fadeaway 15 footer than he does making any sort of post move. If you think about all of the spider big men in recent memory with success, starting with TJ, all of them developed a really nice array of post moves. TJ had the quick spin move and drop step that he really loved, Golden was bigger and used his size a bit better for over the shoulder shots and loved the 7-8 foot floater, Quinn was similar to Golden in that regard. Beagle has some nice post moves too, he had a great drop step in the Belmont game. For some reason, Walz seems to have zero confidence with any of that.
 
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