St. Louis does it again...

[sman]

I know Schertz said they couldn't pay Avila market ... but they paid him. SLU and VCU were tops with Dayton in A10 NIL spending. that's obviously where serious A10 programs need to be.

 

[*23*]

Right, Schertz sold him on a vision. I get it, most of the time money talks. But if it is close, you need to be able to sell the vision and fit. And I don't trust Mooney to do that. If insider is believed, AA is coming back and he already knows the whole story of "little guard U" if you have listened to his inteviews - and he got to play a lot this season. But it is the 6'3 to 6'7 guard athletic guard wings Mooney needs to sell, and have enough money for.

 

[brooklyn brownstone]

watching SLU play, you see the differences between their offensive gameplan and MilkMoonBall.

1. When they weave it is not just to end up with the ball on the wing in the same spot every time. Tons of effective ball movement that led to actual different looks nonstop.
2. They also then immediately run different actions out of their beginning passes, like using Avila / big guys to work pick and roll actions out of any beginning passes/weave. UR runs same 2 options, dribble handoff or corner pass, nonstop.
3. Avila faced the basket with the ball becoming a threat to do more than just be a hand off or pass to the corner guy. One of the board's main complaints about how MilkMan utilizes our bigs. It was a clinic on how to use a skilled big man on offense.
4. Avila was used all over the court, not just top of key. Baseline, wing, etc.
5. They take a gigantic percentage of their 2 point attempts at the rim, not in the mid range. This was one of the grossest disparities for me. UR settles for 12 foot jumpers and has bigs shooting 1980s fadeaways. SLU took layups.
6. SLU effectively ran out in transition a lot.
7. Guys with 2 fouls were allowed to play after getting the 2nd foul. Trust by the coach.
8. Guys who tried shit were not immediately benched if it didn't work out. Avila tried an ill-advised behind the back pass and it led to a UGa runout and score. He was not benched and shamed, but allowed to play through that mistake.

Maybe MilkMoon will learn from SLU the same way he learned about offensive rebounding last offseason. Though he probably found out about that because Hovde directly told him, so I'm not hopeful.

 

[Gallipoli]

Michigan is favored by 12.5 points, according to ESPN.

 

[Gallipoli]

Really G?

We could have had St. Louis' coach or Martelli, Jr. or even the High Point coach, but we have Mooney.

 

[ManiBenton]

what a day for the a10 man

 

[*23*]

Yep brooklyn, the movement from SLU is just so crisp and intentional, and I mentioned the same, have guys that aggressivel attack the rim. Was listening to radio or maybe a youtube breakdown of brackets and SLU had maybe the highest level of shots that were either at the rim or from 3. It was some weird stat but basically said they had most combined shot percentage of being at the rim or at three point line - so hardly any mid range. I feel like Mooney is just too stubborn or lazy to learn new things anymore.

 

[whampas]

I feel like Mooney is just too stubborn or lazy to learn new things anymore.

You hear about basketball IQ all the time. Maybe the guy just doesn't have a mind for high level basketball. English major in college doesn't lend itself to high level analytics. Some of his basketball philosophy is mind boggling.

 

[brooklyn brownstone]

his whole philosophy is take what the defense gives you, the UR offense is predicated upon it. Unfortunately, they have given UR any mid range jumper we want for multiple years now and we don't coach it out of the players. It also gives poor shooters the ball on the perimeter with time running down on the shot clock and we also accept that.

We rarely dictate the shot, we let the defense do that. So we take terrible shots.

I'd love to see the UR shot charts from this year.

 

[Spiderguy]

Watching SLU operate that offense makes me hate our program even more. YMCA looking big who carves up defenses with passes to back cuts, scoring at the rim or from 3. It’s just beautiful.

And we run the weave, pass, pass, pass, handoff, pass, turnaround mid-range jumper offense.

They put on an exhibition last night. Fun to watch the way they play. Great tv game.

 

[PalmTreeSpidUR]

I'm not much of a St. Louis fan but this was a good win for them and the conference. I wouldn't be suprrised if they win again.

 

[Eight Legger]

I'll be honest, I didn't enjoy seeing what they did to us, but the Nebraska women's team also put on a clinic in handling and passing the ball, as well as running set plays. They moved the ball like a bunch of machines. It was really impressive.

 

[URFan1]

I'll be honest, I didn't enjoy seeing what they did to us, but the Nebraska women's team also put on a clinic in handling and passing the ball, as well as running set plays. They moved there ball like a bunch of machines. It was really impressive.

Much of what you're saying is you have to mave without the ball, available when you don't have the ball.

 

[MrTbone]

In addition to having a good coach, they went out and got 4 power conference transfers. I know it takes some money, but not crazy money. We are now talking about spending it. But, just like mooney is a little baby on scheduling (claiming he is not able to get games , while we know it is really a combination of lack of interest and effort ), he also was scared or not motivates enought o go and get a little extra NIL funds. He is the high paid CEO of the basketball program, yet he is too scared to go out and bang on doors to get the funds to get those types of players. Those type of p5 transfer downs are the level of athlete require to compete at the level of SLU or VCU. Not the one dimensional guys we get in the portal. They go and do it. Mooney makes excuses and reads his books by the beach.

There is a low percentage chance that CM can dramatically improve his win rate in spite of substantially better players and there’s an even lower chance he can go out and get these players.

Look at who we are recruiting, and getting, out of high school. These are not Top150 guys and with few exceptions, they aren’t drawing high major interest/offers.

I am an armchair psychologist but we aren’t even trying, which suggests our staff doesn’t believe in themselves to win these types of recruiting battles. Having a bigger bag will help but that doesn’t replace having vision and confidence. Any good sales guy knows this.

 

[Wood Hall]

When did SLU do it the first time, in order to do it again?

 

[SFspidur]

When did SLU do it the first time, in order to do it again?

Elite Eight in 1952? (Although it only required one win to reach it.)

SLU has never won more than one game in any NCAA tourney.