Well, I was being a bit sarcastic when thinking extension more likely than getting rid of him, but Moon didn’t deserve an extension last time. At least I think not. But he surely got an extension. So, history seems to be on his side more than true performance. How many extensions has he gotten? I can’t remember or keep track. So in the meantime, here we are in year 21 which is a good many years longer than most would expect. But maybe this time is different. I’ll believe when I see it. Until then I’d have to place bets on extension.
Mooney vs Schmidt
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MrTbone
All A-10 player
I’m no Mooney apologist but you’re having some selective memory on him being “gifted” a winning program. When Ole Jer left, UR bball was pretty much a disaster. Lost all our guards and didn’t have a ton to work with, all pre-portal.
I’d peel that one out of your argument.
MrTbone
All A-10 player
I think an extension is unlikely barring some kind of miracle run to the tournament. The argument that you need four years on contract to secure talent has gone the way of the dodo bird between NIL and the portal.
But we’re even less likely to buy out a contract, there’s literally zero history there. We’d let the contract die a slow painful death which is brutal a coach who is just good enough to surprise you in the final year of contract.
ManiBenton
Bench player
Richmond's 4 years before Mooney got hired: 71-56 with a tournament appearance.
St Bonaventure's 4 years before Schimdt: 24-88
Night and day who came into a better situation
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97spiderfan
Starter
I do think it is harder to recruit at a place like St. Bonnie which is in the middle of nowhere in upstate New York and you spend most of your time there dealing with freezing temperatures and deep snow, than it is a growing metropolis like UR with a much better climate. We have better facilities, more money, an all around better University. UR is a better job and that is where we get the mantra of Schmidt had done more with less thinking.
With all that said, though Schmidt like Mooney has proven to be nothing more than an average coach. If I'm a St. Bonnie fan, I've seen enough of the Schmidt experience and want off that ride as well. For the good of each program and the conference in general, both of these long tenured coaches need to move on.
With all that said, though Schmidt like Mooney has proven to be nothing more than an average coach. If I'm a St. Bonnie fan, I've seen enough of the Schmidt experience and want off that ride as well. For the good of each program and the conference in general, both of these long tenured coaches need to move on.
*23*
Assistant coach
I wonder what the dynamic is between schmidt and Woj. Are they PQ/Moon type buddies? Woj spent a lot of time hyping his Joe Grahovac finding. He has looked really good at times, but now Woj played him 2 minutes and even had to make a statement, basically saying due to his lack of organized ball does not understand how to play yet. I'm guessing they will get a couple years to make it work, but have to wonder if this type of scenario will strain the relationship.
Wood Hall
Bench player
SLU absolutely destroyed SBU tonight, 97-62, in Olean. It was 58-26 at halftime.
I was born in Olean (it's Western New York, not Upstate, just a note). It's a tough town, population declining, some of what industry remains is leaving, winters can be tough if you don't like snow ... but SBU has great basketball tradition, an incredibly loyal alumni base and it is the only game in town. So that helps sustain the program.
And yes, 98 of 100 coaches, given the choice, would choose UR over SBU. I grew up a huge Canisius fan and remain so today ... but I still chuckle when some loyal Griffs still say Beilein made a mistake when he left CC for UR. There was a stretch when we played Canisius pretty regularly, those were good games.
