Exactly. I have said this many times on many threads. The A10 is a competitive league, but it isn’t going to get more than 2 bids and that only happens if there is one regular season champ that happens to lose the tournament.
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Death spiral or not. Plz somebody convince me that either Mooney will walk away after this year or those in charge will find away to let him go. I don't care how bad things have been on balance for his tenure, how awful last year was, how this year is playing out as another failure, or how weak next year looks on paper right now...I'm seeing Mooney hanging around AT LEAST for the duration of the latest extension. PLEASE SOMEONE CONVINCE ME I'M WRONG, AND THIS YEAR IS THE END OF IT.
Sadly I think you’re right. The way this ends is mooney stays around for his son to join the team as a walk on, keeps coaching for 4 more years while his son is on the team and then retires after. Then we promote someone very uninspiring like one of his long time assistants because the school views Mooney like coach K, doesn’t want to do an actual coaching search and just does what’s the least difficult and most convenient. If I had to guess that’s how this will end.
Eight Legger
Bench player
The way this ends after this season is like this:
* Mooney's last extension was carefully crafted to give us an easy out for little or no actual buyout.
* We finish the year as poorly as we are playing right now.
* Mooney realizes the game has passed him by, he doesn't want to start over with a new roster every year and he's tired of losing.
* We agree to a retirement situation and pay him for one more full year and transition him to some type of associate AD role if he wants it.
* Mooney's last extension was carefully crafted to give us an easy out for little or no actual buyout.
* We finish the year as poorly as we are playing right now.
* Mooney realizes the game has passed him by, he doesn't want to start over with a new roster every year and he's tired of losing.
* We agree to a retirement situation and pay him for one more full year and transition him to some type of associate AD role if he wants it.
the A10 is better than 24 conferences. not as good as 6.
if you expect the A10 to pass a HM conference, get used to disappointment.
They could be a heck of a lot closer to the MWC than they are. Maybe 1 bid out of 15 teams. 1 top 50 NET team. 3rd best team is only 75 NET. 7 teams with a NET of 143 or worse. My goodness, u think that is a good conference?
Average NETs:
MWC: 116
A-10: 133
WCC: 138
MVC: 141
A couple of those conferences (mainly MWC and WCC) have a few very good teams at the top that put their conferences in position for multiple bids. But those conferences also have a few really bad teams. The A-10's problem (MVC is in similar position) is that we are too middle-heavy...decent teams but good enough to be in tourney discussion.
MWC: 116
A-10: 133
WCC: 138
MVC: 141
A couple of those conferences (mainly MWC and WCC) have a few very good teams at the top that put their conferences in position for multiple bids. But those conferences also have a few really bad teams. The A-10's problem (MVC is in similar position) is that we are too middle-heavy...decent teams but good enough to be in tourney discussion.
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And MWC has 10 of its 12 teams at 144 or better. Air Force and its 345 NET is bringing the average down.
The A-10's better teams need to win more key OOC games. Kind of pattern here, which screams you are not a good conference if you keep losing most of your key OOC games every year.VCU has a couple nice wins, but lost its 4 toughest OOC games. Mason played a joke of an OOC schedule and lost to the only decent team they played, Va Tech. Those are 2 of the top 3 A-10 teams who are not on the bubble because they don't have any or enough good wins OOC. So, I stand by my opinion that the A-10 is not a good league. And they won't be until multiple teams can start winning more good games OOC. And being 7th best means nothing if 8-31 are not good either, and you are well behind #6.
MrTbone
Bench player
I don’t disagree except I think that Athletics can spin a winning season as progress since a lot of people won’t look beyond the overall record.
If we go 5-13 after 10-3 then 15-16 might be hard to sell though, particularly without a full cupboard.
The 10 schools that will make up next year's MWC currently have an average NET of 158, so definitely a step behind the A-10 but they have some decent ones with New Mexico at 42, Nevada at 59, Grand Canyon at 67, and then Hawaii at 92. Kinda similar to A-10 with decent but not great ones at the top, although more dead weight could drag those remaining good teams down a bit.
Next year's Pac-12 that will absorb most of the top MWC teams plus Gonzaga currently has an average NET of 109, with Gonzaga and Utah State being elite and SDSU and Boise generally right in the mix.
