Some of us were advocating for harder harder OOC and more more Power teams for many years, though I also recall plenty of pushback on old board for some reason. We needed that culture. What was that pretentious saying from Hardt...something about mens baketball rising the tide in our athletics REGATTA. what a dork. Just start with the schedule. That's going to force yourself to raise your game imo. We let ourselves stagnate & decline bc we refused to push ourselves.
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Some of us were advocating for harder harder OOC and more more Power teams for many years, though I also recall plenty of pushback on old board for some reason. We needed that culture. What was that pretentious saying from Hardt...something about mens baketball rising the tide in our athletics REGATTA. what a dork. Just start with the schedule. That's going to force yourself to raise your game imo. We let ourselves stagnate & decline bc we refused to push ourselves.
*23*
All A-10 player
To me its actually just one of many many items in which we try to run things like a low major with low expectations. It is a huge piece of the puzzle, but Mooney has always shied from the light. I know a few on this board gloss certain thing over, but when u add them all up it matters.
This years team yeah. Tho maybe we knock off a bigger team than Belmont & it would have been more fun and more visibility. But not my point anyway. If we had followed the schedule harder philosophy in past we wouldn’t have this team. because we would have elevated our program imo. We lack the culture. Our culture has been correctly identified as a culture of comfort.
So, what u are saying is instead of having a good OOC schedule and giving ypur fans something to talk about and look forward to in the off season, just schedule all cupcakes and NEVER excite your fans?
And, also schedule all cupcakes so your players will be less prepared as possible for conference play?
I will never be able to justify our schedule. It sucked and provided no positives at all.
*23*
All A-10 player
You keep missing the point here. We should be setting a standard in all areas. Scheduling is one. We know scheduling is SO HARD. We turn down games. We should be constantly mining games instead of trying to selectively do so. And if you are scheduling to a standard, it sure as hell will get you out of bed in the morning and out on the recruiting trail and texting the money guys for NIL earlier in the morning. You are missing the point in how this all ties in together. Lil ol Richmond. And players want to play national games. Not against freaking southern Charleston. Come on man.
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All A-10 player
Exactly my point, could have saved myself some typing.
brooklyn brownstone
Bench player
I wish UR still did the auction where one of the prizes was to join the commentary team on tv for the entire game. The board could pool our money and get the message out there via one of our posters.
The over/under before they kicked us off of the broadcast would be the first media timeout.
The over/under before they kicked us off of the broadcast would be the first media timeout.
I think someone on here mentioned that BB said on an interview that this schedule was never designed to get us in the NCAA tournament. That means it was put together for 1 reason: to get us a bunch of wins to pad the record. It was designed to keep the status quo in place.
Correct. And what do all those wins mean now? Certainly didn't up our game in prep for A10 season as we've lost 5 in a row. I'll dismiss the feel good factor of 10 wins against a weak weak and one more weak OOC schedule.
Agree. My personal belief is it wasn't to save his job this year either because that's not even on the table. It was done simply to keep his seat from getting warmer going into NEXT season. The UR admin doesn't want to deal with it in any way so they were fully amenable to a weak OOC & show just progress.
It was a 2-year status quo strategy.
you're putting words in my mouth.
I've stated many times I want a better schedule. all I said was that a better schedule wasn't (in my opinion) going to make us a better team or prepare us for A10 play better. we're 3-7 in the A10 because we're a 3-7 level team. we're not good enough.
gospidersgo
Walk-on
Both things can be true - we likely would have lost a ton of games with a tough ooc schedule - AND - we still should have done it anyway. This year's home schedule was a slap in the face to ticket buying fans, especially combined with all the other things we seem to struggle to do right at the moment.
I agree we look like a 3-7 team, but I think playing against better competition OOC would have definitely given us a better chance to perform better IC. Playing against better defenses, better offenses, better athletes, teams with multiple scoring options......instead of playing your 1st 10 IC games against teams who are all better than who we played OOC. And I am sure fans would rather see good games against good teams than cupcakes.
And, if I were recruiting against us, I would 100% talk about our soft OOC schedules the past 2 years. Guys want to play tough teams and they want a chance to dance. I would mention how we are not serous as a program and are not concerned with making the dance because no one who wants to make the dance schedules like this.
brooklyn brownstone
Bench player
another aspect of such a weak OOC is that it did not allow for proper player analysis going into the league season.
So some guys looked fine in the OOC and then all the sudden couldn't do much of anything against better competition. Some barely play now.
It would have been nice to know that, to start working the issues out in November, not January.
So some guys looked fine in the OOC and then all the sudden couldn't do much of anything against better competition. Some barely play now.
It would have been nice to know that, to start working the issues out in November, not January.
it's February ... what have we learned?
I like AA, and now he's probably going to miss time.
Lopez is good. Johnston has moments. I like Daughtry more than most here. strong offensive player for sure.
I think we knew all of that in November.
the others are all comparable ... but none separate themselves from each other.
*23*
All A-10 player
I can't find the posts, maybe on reddit or rivals. But I was banging the drum on this quite a bit. The worst part of the soft schedule is we wouldn't know what works, what doesn't, who can raise their games in A10 play, continuity by finding the best lineups. Instead we just played a lot of guys and they all looked pretty good at times vs poor competition. He'll I was convinced at one point Beagle had made a huge jump in the off season. But I also pointed out a lot of it was out athletics these weak ass teams. And due to NIL these bottom feeders are even worse. Especially a 6'8 athlete. So Now we are playing legit guys every week and its a s show.
Spider17
All A-10 player
What bothered me the most with our schedule was when JMU called us out for not scheduling a real game with them. I’m glad they did. That is because it showed everyone that we weren’t even trying to find the best schedule for our team this year. JMU is not a powerhouse by all means but they’ve been very solid the past few years, are a local rival, and are a heck of a lot better option than VMI, Citadel, Gardner Webb, and D3 Southern Virginia.
agreed. I'm glad that went public. that certainly annoyed Mooney. I would have pressed Mooney to address those comments at some point.
he's not pressed on anything. Never been pressed on vcu record once. Coaches would line up for this job. It's why I find the "well who are u going to replace Mooney with" as the worst argument of them all.
