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Eight Legger
Starter
I think he's good but that program was built by the last guy, who went to Creighton to become coach in waiting. So I'd like to see this guy do it for another year first.
Spide
Walk-on
Was great to see High Point win. A colleague who worked at High Point said basketball had $4.2 million for players. Wonder how this coach would have fared with the Spiders $2 million budget? Let’s see how our coach does the next couple of years with a competitive budget.
Eight Legger
Starter
Stop making excuses for our pathetic performance. "A couple years??" He's had 21 FREAKING YEARS.
Spide
Walk-on
Eight, not making an excuse for the Spiders’ recent performance, but the success of the High Point coach correlates well with his budget relative to other Big South schools. The inverse could be said about the lack of success of the Spiders and others with minimal budgets. Sadly we’re in an era where by and large the best performing teams have the largest budgets. I personally hate it, but that’s where we are. I’m not the first one to observe this. One other point, the repetitive nature of many on this message board calling for our coach’s firing grew old years ago. My approach is to support my alma mater and allow those in charge to handle personnel and other administrative matters.
Spider17
Assistant coach
I think Eight was getting at the fact that it sounds like the consensus the admin has is to give him multiple years on a competitive budget. He’s questioning why it needs to be “multiple”. If we have another mediocre season next year on a competitive budget are we really going to continue down this track for a few more years? Shouldn’t it be evaluating on a year-by-year basis?
How do you explain away his poor performance before NIL? Those in charge are the problem.
Spide
Walk-on
Believe that’s what’s happening now, “17”.
Eight Legger
Starter
So humor me then. No one in our athletic department thought maybe it would be a good idea to spend more money on NIL until right now?? This idea just suddenly came to them after we sucked for two straight years? No one could have anticipated that you'd get better players with more money?
Also, if private donations have dried up, I wonder why that could be? Hmmm, let me think about it for two seconds.
I'm sick and tired of every reason under the sun being used as an excuse for why we suck. The product on the floor sucks because Mooney's schemes are old and tired. Give him better players and he'll coach them down. The talent on this year's team wasn't the problem -- the schemes were. He's playing 2008 basketball and the rest of the world is playing in 2026.
But sure, let's give him another 9 or 10 years and an infinite number of excuses to "get it right."
Also, if private donations have dried up, I wonder why that could be? Hmmm, let me think about it for two seconds.
I'm sick and tired of every reason under the sun being used as an excuse for why we suck. The product on the floor sucks because Mooney's schemes are old and tired. Give him better players and he'll coach them down. The talent on this year's team wasn't the problem -- the schemes were. He's playing 2008 basketball and the rest of the world is playing in 2026.
But sure, let's give him another 9 or 10 years and an infinite number of excuses to "get it right."
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*23*
Assistant coach
Why didnt lil ol liar Mooney go and get the money for players the last two years??? Because he is just motivated enough to keep his job, not win consistently. This is right on que, give Mooney enough to look a little better. Maybe get another hail Mary. Next thing you know its 2035 and another decade of .500 ball.
I’m on board 100 pct with this post.
The cheerleaders say, “we are UR”. Maybe should replace with, “excuses are UR”. It never surprises me when another excuse surfaces. Evidently that’s our SOP.
In the meantime, we are once again on the outside watching March Madness.
*23*
Assistant coach
Agree with the above. It all lands at Mooney's feet. If he didn't think he was getting enough support in certain areas, he is the CEO and in the very best position to pound the table and get what he needs. But he is content. Again, we are acting like NIL and transfer portal just came out a week ago. No, we are just super super slow adapters with Mooney. Every aspect of how he runs the program and coaches says slow and not adaptable. But Hardt doesn't care or hands are tied or most likely just not very sharp. Still remember the RTD article where he toured the VCU practice facility and was amazed and it opened his eyes. A practice facility arms race had been ongoing in the A10 for 3 years at that time, including lil ol Davidson. This guy either plays stupid, or is incompetent at his job.
Spider17
Assistant coach
My other question/thought is what does “competitive” mean in budget? I’ve assumed that it’s the $4-5 million range, which would be consistent with the top of the A10 (I think) but maybe my definition of competitive is different from the administration’s definition.
Arachnid
Bench player
I’ll bite. Not much difference around 53% wins. Unless he continues to schedule DIII cupcakes then I’ll raise it. But he needs to avoid the Virginia Dlll powerhouses, RMC, RC, CNU, VaWes and UMW, just to be safe.
carolinaspider
Bench player
Spide, how do you explain 9-29 against VCU? 21 years of ineptness against our arch rival.
Explain that PQ!
Explain that PQ!
SpiderRick
Bench player
Nice deflection Mooneyite. So now the message board posters are the problem. Well shit, just go out and "find new fans", ones who like a well groomed coach and a 54% winning record.
I swear, your statement really really infuriates me (and probably many others as well).
SpiderRick
Bench player
And since you mentioned repetitive, how about 21 years of weaving and Mooney's old tired antiquated scheme. Other A10 coaches quit scouting us years ago because they know everything Mooney does before he does it.
The one thing he does well? Making excuses...
The one thing he does well? Making excuses...
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