Game Thread - Southern Illinois @ RC - Sat 12/13 6pm ESPN+

The Salukis at 148th in the Net are currently 5-4 with their last win over a strongish High Point team. They play a 6-2 UT Martin team on Wednesday night.

As JOC noted in his next game section today, they have 4 players > 6'9 on the roster and seem to be a big team.

Spiders will need to play better than yesterday's game against ODU and I think will win a close one - 78-73.
 
You are right I line with Kenpom. They are predicting a 79-73 Spiders win.

Yes that is a good win at High Point. I dont like that they have a warm up game on Wednesday, where we will be coming off a long layoff and exams.
 
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Another team that appears to be better than its record suggests. I will have to see if I can watch a little of their game this week. I like the fact that they aren’t a good 3 pt shooting team.

Don’t like the fact that the Solukis will have a weekday game either, but it appears to be an even matchup with UT Martin so maybe they will get worn down a little. Perhaps we should root for an OT game.
 
UT Martin not putting up much resistance in this game. 12-39 shooting for UT with just under 12 minutes to go. SIU playing decent defense, but just as much poor play by UT.

Solukis have some size and play 9 players so another team that uses the bench. Did hit 10 3 pt shots vs HPU (46%), so can get hot although that was their best shooting game of the season. Definitely like to push the ball so Spiders will need to hustle back on D.

Expect a high scoring game and a narrow Spider victory.
 
Another worthless game. Win means nothing and a loss is painful. But that's the entire OOC schedule save Belmont (which is a good win).

Sure would be nice to have another actual few good games OOC to see who we really are and actually be able to prove it if it turns out we have something with this group. Honestly, the Belmont win just got me all worked up again about the schedule!
 
Another worthless game. Win means nothing and a loss is painful. But that's the entire OOC schedule save Belmont (which is a good win).

Sure would be nice to have another actual few good games OOC to see who we really are and actually be able to prove it if it turns out we have something with this group. Honestly, the Belmont win just got me all worked up again about the schedule!
Certainly agree and hope for stronger non-conference next year but far from a worthless game in my opinion. Southern Illinois has a net now of 113 so a Q3 game but if we win strong should get a nice bump up in Net and makes the Elon (net 146) game more significant as the last real challenge for us as we aim to be 12-1 headed into A10 play given cupcakes of Citadel and Charleston Southern. More importantly, the confidence in this team is bulding each game I think as they find new ways to win.
 
A best of the worst type game, no doubt. However, this S Illinois team is not a bad team by any stretch and the Spiders are going to be tested. One bad loss against NDSU is the main blemish on their record.

Hope the guys are ready to go and finish out the OOC strong. Keeping the chatter going on the wider scene is something that Richmond definitely needs to be able to land future transfers. Then we get to conference play when the team will really be tested. Looking forward to it.
 
Will free shirts get the students to show up?

Based on the first 6 home games, I suspect we will have about 250 of these t-shirts left over. I don't know if anyone else noticed at the ODU game that the field hockey team was honored at halftime. They all sat together in the first half and then after they got honored at halftime, they split.

I thought it was a pretty disgusting display of UR athletic unity. You can't even stay around for the second half to watch fellow Spider athletes compete AFTER you get recognized for your season at halftime on a Saturday afternoon when you are not in season. Pretty shameless in my opinion.
 
Based on the first 6 home games, I suspect we will have about 250 of these t-shirts left over. I don't know if anyone else noticed at the ODU game that the field hockey team was honored at halftime. They all sat together in the first half and then after they got honored at halftime, they split.

I thought it was a pretty disgusting display of UR athletic unity. You can't even stay around for the second half to watch fellow Spider athletes compete AFTER you get recognized for your season at halftime on a Saturday afternoon when you are not in season. Pretty shameless in my opinion.
It is disappointing, but at the same time understandable. Basketball was always king on campus and now that gap has widened with UR opting in for revenue sharing with those same athletes. There is no simple answer, but it is easy to see why there is division.

My bigger question is where is the rest of the student body (I assume that the majority of students are not athletes, but don’t know the percentages)? These paid players are representing your school, but no one shows up for the games. Which brings me to the real question, if athletics is important to widen the exposure of the University and attract students, what attraction can there be if once on campus the students don’t show up to any games?
 
It is disappointing, but at the same time understandable. Basketball was always king on campus and now that gap has widened with UR opting in for revenue sharing with those same athletes. There is no simple answer, but it is easy to see why there is division.

My bigger question is where is the rest of the student body (I assume that the majority of students are not athletes, but don’t know the percentages)? These paid players are representing your school, but no one shows up for the games. Which brings me to the real question, if athletics is important to widen the exposure of the University and attract students, what attraction can there be if once on campus the students don’t show up to any games?
Maybe it has to do with the type of student that is being accepted by the school
 
I know that all of us on here are die hard spiders fans, but I think a reality across college athletics today is that there is an overall decrease in student interest to attend games. To me, attendance or lackthereof boils down to 3 major factors.

1. Culture
This is probably the most important thing and hardest to cultivate. At the end of the day, creating an atmosphere and reputation that going to the basketball games is part of the school identity and college experience for the students. For instance, it is statistically impossible that every student who gets accepted to Duke just so happens to be die hard basketball fans. Rather, the more likely scenario is that they become fans as part of the culture of the school engrained for decades. I had a friend at UR who had gotten into Duke for a grad program. He never once went to a single UR basketball game (maybe except against VCU). While he was still a student at UR, he learned of his acceptance into Duke. I remember him wearing a Duke shirt and rooting for them in March Madness lol.

Now what is something that can help build the culture? That leads me to the second point

2. The games itself, which can be broken down to 2 parts
Part A is the competition of games. There’s one thing to have games against other top teams that inherently generates excitement and then there’s games against VMI and Gardner Webb. I had another friend who went to Duke for undergrad. He said tickets to the top ACC games were very hard to get and they do something that involves sleeping in tents for tickets. For random OOC games, anyone could practically get tickets. Now for UR, we aren’t in the ACC but A10 still has a lot of great competition and big names. I imagine we will have a greater attendance come conference play than we did OOC.

Part B, is winning. Got to win the games. The more you win, the greater buzz it generates. Sustained winning over years is what then formulates expectations and the foundation of a stronger identity and gravitation towards student involvement at games. Loyola is a great program and has no attendance this year. I saw a tweet that even Georgetown has not had a lot of student attendance either

3. Our student size
While I take immense pride in having a strong academic profile with a smaller student body and tight knit community, the fact is this will be a limitation for us for high attendance. I don’t care if it’s UR, Duke, or Ohio State, there will always be a higher percentage of students who don’t want, can’t, or care to go to the games than students that do. The problem is that 20% of the student body is still as significant amount and more than enough to fill seats at those schools. At UR, we need probably like 30-40% to completely pack the student section. That’s hard to do.
It also means that there are fewer students who want to be part of things like the Richmond Rowdies. That was a strong presence in the early 2000s. It was there when I was a student but a lot less, and now it’s virtually non-existent.

At the end of the day, the priority should be to build a program that has sustained success and goals of playing tough competition out of conference and in conference. If we do that, the rest will follow.

I was at this game 10 years ago (video below). Just 2 years ago, the atmosphere against Dayton was tremendous too. UR has it within them to be have a strong basketball culture with students like other schools, we just need to bring it out.

 
Based on the first 6 home games, I suspect we will have about 250 of these t-shirts left over.
I notice we didn't put the year on these shirts ... so we can use any leftovers next year.
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