Argabright coming back (confirmed)

This I’m onboard with. It seems to perfectly align with his skills and benefits the team the most. Unfortunately I don’t see CM taking advantage of JRob in this way. I only hope Moon doesn’t keep pounding the square peg round hole approach.
that's my concern too. bring in a really good center. have Homenick and Cook back him up. play JRob at the big forward spot and let him be an athlete. if Caldwell beats him out ... fine. but let's get bigger at the 4.

this is all more of what I personally want to do vs what I think we will do. we'll adjust expectations when we know the roster.
 
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Good for AA. Now clean house and replace everyone else.

We had AA, a couple bigs in Walz and Beagle, and a scoring wing in AJ, and JRob only played 10 mpg and averaged less than 3 ppg. Why do you think next year will be any different?
And think about what we lost. Two very competent centers in Walz and Beagle. Our best player was probably AJ Lopez. Also lost another major starter in Johnston. We have to replace 4 of our 5 best players from last years team.

And we have nothing in house but AA, some role players (Tyne, Tanner, Daughtry) and a bunch of guys who can best be described as projects.

Cupboard is bare folks, as bare it has been in years. And we got Mooney the man who created this dearth of talent still in charge. Good luck.

I do feel this year could be akin to a kamikaze mission for Mooney. Yeah, he got a reprieve but he is left with little ammo and the competition is upping their games and commitments as well.
 
that's my concent too. bring in a really good center. have Homenick and Cook back him up. play JRob at the big forward spot and let him be an athlete. if Caldwell beats him out ... fine. but let's get bigger at the 4.

this is all more of what I personally want to do vs what I think we will do. we'll adjust expectations when we know the roster.
So, u want a 6'6 starter who can't handle, can't shoot the 3, and doesn't have an inside game like a Cayo type? I just can't give a lot of minutes to that type of player.
 
And think about what we lost. Two very competent centers in Walz and Beagle. Our best player was probably AJ Lopez. Also lost another major starter in Johnston. We have to replace 4 of our 5 best players from last years team.

And we have nothing in house but AA, some role players (Tyne, Tanner, Daughtry) and a bunch of guys who can best be described as projects.

Cupboard is bare folks, as bare it has been in years. And we got Mooney the man who created this dearth of talent still in charge. Good luck.

I do feel this year could be akin to a kamikaze mission for Mooney. Yeah, he got a reprieve but he is left with little ammo and the competition is upping their games and commitments as well.
A bare cupboard was the perfect time to make a coaching change. Yet, we said, "let's run it back".
 
Should we get in line behind VCU?

But their fans weren't interested in him earlier this year even when they saw him putting up big numbers at Radford...turned off by the paltry couple of years at NC State.

This is another one where it might be tough for us to take him from an academic perspective. Three years under his belt and only one year of eligibility, so given our residency requirements for a degree I don't know that he'll work for us.
 
A bare cupboard was the perfect time to make a coaching change. Yet, we said, "let's run it back".
And we’ll probably never hear the definitive reasons why they brought him back so all we can do is speculate, but I’d luv to hear FACTS. Cold hard answers.
 
Should we get in line behind VCU?

But their fans weren't interested in him earlier this year even when they saw him putting up big numbers at Radford...turned off by the paltry couple of years at NC State.

This is another one where it might be tough for us to take him from an academic perspective. Three years under his belt and only one year of eligibility, so given our residency requirements for a degree I don't know that he'll work for us.
I mean, does he care about getting a degree right now anyway or is he just going to take the most money he's offered? I'm guessing the latter. He can finish his degree later if he wants to.
 
yeah, that was a really big comment. looking at the team, I don't see anyone I thought wasn't going 100%. but he's on the inside and would know.
So in all lines of work, including college basketball, I think there is a rather wide area between "works really hard" and "is dogging it" and the lines in between are pretty blurry and a lot of guys live in that vast area. So when I hear an AA say "not everybody played hard" I tend to hear that as "some people were dogging it" but really he probably means some folks were in than vast area. And that's harder to spot for sure - - especially from outside where we can see "dogging it" but harder too distinguish the various levels above that. The great Dick Bennet once told us at a coaching clinic that the number one thing we needed to do as coaches was to figure out which guys were working their hardest and which guys weren't WHEN THE COACHES WEREN'T LOOKING. He said this would tell us all we needed to know about our team and how to coach it etc. but was super hard since we couldn't actually be looking or the "test" was ruined. This was great advice and I think applies in this described circumstance - - everything we see from outside is also a coach is watching scenario so we won't see what AA is referring to, but he will!

I also think the current culture of college BB (and UR's current spot in it) is going to feed into a lot of this type of not working quite so hard behavior. There are many possible motivations for guys to play hard: pride, sacrifice for your "brothers", loyalty to a coach who was loyal to me, desire to win, build something for your future and many many more. But a lot of the reasons go away in the current college basketball era. Does any senior transfer have the same kind of feeling for teammates and joint accomplishment as guys who rode together for 4 years ? Loyalty to a coach? Most are hired mercenaries and at the UR level, this is the last roundup and the last pay day, there is no basketball future for the Will Johnston's of the world. Its very easy to confuse yourself even in to thinking you are working hard simply because you aren't actively dogging it! And especially so when you aren't winning and you don't really believe you will win!
 
I mean, does he care about getting a degree right now anyway or is he just going to take the most money he's offered? I'm guessing the latter. He can finish his degree later if he wants to.
And I don't see that as a guy we're going to take, not even under the reportedly relaxed requirements. Our expectation is going to continue to be that guys coming here will either be graduating from here or transferring out in good standing. (Grad transfers are a different story.) A one-year rental using his final year of eligibility and who can't finish that year with a UR undergrad degree isn't going to fly with admissions. I'm willing to bet Ulla's ranch on it.
 
I like Harper a little bit but not completely sold.

And this is the problem with how we handled this year - - there is no reason we shouldn't have seen more of him than we did in order to advance the ball on assessing him. We were invested in getting Moon current wins and trying to save face for a sinking ship and its leaders (all of them) when we should have been investing in the future. And now we figure to get a repeat next year because we need to double down on the short-term and getting wins or it just gets embarrassing for the hierarchy. So we will invest in Senior transfers (maybe, just maybe, a junior) with our newly expanded NIL budget and we will in theory get more wins but are we really advancing the program this way??
 
So, u want a 6'6 starter who can't handle, can't shoot the 3, and doesn't have an inside game like a Cayo type? I just can't give a lot of minutes to that type of player.
to me, it depends what you put arourd him.
obviously not comparing him to Dennis Rodman, but if I guy gives you a lot of other things he doesn't have to give you everything.

I don't want multiple non-shooters on the floor. so to play JRob at the 4, our 5 has to have perimeter skills.
the 5 I'm talking about needing is well above the Walz/Beagle level, not that they weren't solid.
 
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