We're officially doomed

This is the biggest thing that it does for a small school like UR. The revenue sports are mostly for the alumni and no one wants to back a losing team.

I agree with @SFspidur that an increase is applications isn’t going to come from Men’s basketball success. It seems fairly obvious that UR is not at the top of the list for any non-athletes that are looking for sporting event options. I guess we will see if there is a huge surge in student interest with the apparent drastic increase in funding. My gut says no.
I would add if you created an exciting experience for the students through athletics, they will more likely be donors and ticket buyers as alums.
 
I think every college knows the importance of what athletics brings in terms of national spotlight on improving the University’s image and reputation. It’s certainly not a secret and why college football and basketball are billion dollar industries. Even our own university president has said as much.

The question is how much effort are we, the University of Richmond, going to put in to achieve those goals. Not just financial investment but complete a complete mindset and the kind of institutional commitment that we see form programs like VCU. And if VCU is a bad example for the admin then how about teams like Villanova, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Stanford, Northwestern, etc. who put even more money and resources so they can compete in even better conferences. Those schools want to be the best in academics, athletics, and it’s no surprise the national exposure they have gotten because of that.

Richmond gets about 16,000 applications now and accepts ~3,000 students for only ~800 to matriculate. That’s about a 25% yield rate. The yield at schools like Duke or Notre Dame are so much higher. A lot of the students accepted at UR turn it down to go to schools like Duke, Northwestern, Villanova, UVA, UNC. The reason is most students that our university wants are well rounded and want a holistic college experiences. Athletics plays a big part in that.
 
I would add if you created an exciting experience for the students through athletics, they will more likely be donors and ticket buyers as alums.
Every year there is the annual giving day in April, athletics is always #1 of all the disciplines in total number of donations and total amount raised.
 
I seem to recall 05 having some data from our Sweet Sixteen run that really didn't show that much of an increase in applications.

I think it matters greatly what the type of institution is. High Point is a less well known school with a high acceptance rate. And so they can benefit quite a bit from getting their name out there, and especially when paired with the unique experience offered to students there, it can generate a lot of interest and a larger applicant pool. And with many schools struggling to hit enrollment targets, it's a boon for them.

UR already has a low acceptance rate and is well-known within its target market, so there may not be as much to gain from an NCAA run. And we're not struggling to hit enrollment goals. (The value of NCAA success was probably a different story back in the '80s when UR was still growing its academic reputation and selectivity.)

Not saying we shouldn't be pursuing basketball excellence, but I do think the impact of NCAA success can vary significantly from institution to institution.
This is more the point about HPU. The admin is allin, whereas ours is all out on hoops and trying to win

 
I think it matters greatly what the type of institution is. High Point is a less well known school with a high acceptance rate. And so they can benefit quite a bit from getting their name out there, and especially when paired with the unique experience offered to students there, it can generate a lot of interest and a larger applicant pool. And with many schools struggling to hit enrollment targets, it's a boon for them.
75% acceptance rate. They are #1 in US News' "Best regional colleges - South" category, so they aren't a slouchy school

 
Ah, yes...edging out Florida Polytechnic and Flagler in that category.

They're improving and are doing some interesting things, but that's a fairly bad acceptance rate for a private university looking to make a name for itself for academic quality. They're definitely behind similar area schools Furman, Wofford, and Elon in selectivity.
 
Toured High Point last year with my daughter. That place is unique to say the least. It gave me cult vibes. I wouldn't compare UR in any way shape or form to High Point.
Couldn't agree more. I toured High Point when I was looking at schools my junior year of high school, and it felt like everyone at that place was brainwashed. Add in the steakhouse on campus where they teach you table manners, wash and fold laundry delivered to your dorm room, 5 pools, and steel drum players lining the streets, it made for quite the weird impression. The President is also idolized in a very strange way all over campus.
 
Couldn't agree more. I toured High Point when I was looking at schools my junior year of high school, and it felt like everyone at that place was brainwashed. Add in the steakhouse on campus where they teach you table manners, wash and fold laundry delivered to your dorm room, 5 pools, and steel drum players lining the streets, it made for quite the weird impression. The President is also idolized in a very strange way all over campus.
We met the President on our tour. Major narcissist. The arena is named after him and yes he is in every video. It is a unique place, I say that kindly because I couldn't wait to leave. Weird weird place.
 
we toured it too. I didn't get a cult vibe or brainwashed thing. we didn't see steel drums, but they were playing classical music on the speakers outside, which was certainly unusual for a college campus ... or anywhere really.

they have a bunch of "tiers" to their housing. our guide mentioned the laundry service in the top tier, but she laughed about it. it didn't sound wide spread. maybe the ultra rich minority pay for it? maybe the basketball team gets that as a perk?

the president was interesting. very sales-ey ... always selling.
 
There was concern of the college losing accreditation a few years ago. In my eyes, place lacks personality. Trying to give a manacured college experience. They have expensive restaurants, movie theaters, people who do laundry for you. In my eyes, that’s trying to compensate for the lack of character and educational experience.

I’ll take Marsh Hall and the worn down walls and stench that was embedded in the building through generations over whatever hotel dorms High Point has, any day of the week. That’s where boys became men!
 
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lol. UR has a pretty manuicured campus too!
I think anyone putting up new buildings and dorms today should do it right. not saying laudry service. but we accept 2 people to a bedroom, cinder block walls, and no air conditioning because that's how it's always been. doesn't mean it should be, when you're coughing up $80k per year.
 
lol. UR has a pretty manuicured campus too!
I think anyone putting up new buildings and dorms today should do it right. not saying laudry service. but we accept 2 people to a bedroom, cinder block walls, and no air conditioning because that's how it's always been. doesn't mean it should be, when you're coughing up $80k per year.
UR had been on a “residential experience” kick for at least a decade to try to win competitive battles for students looking at equivalent academic institutions. Living spaces and dining services are all super high priority, so it’s definitely come a long way recently, and a really long way from when I graduated in the early 90s.
 
lol. UR has a pretty manuicured campus too!
I think anyone putting up new buildings and dorms today should do it right. not saying laudry service. but we accept 2 people to a bedroom, cinder block walls, and no air conditioning because that's how it's always been. doesn't mean it should be, when you're coughing up $80k per year.
Our university takes care of its beautiful campus. I think there’s a difference. Of course there are renovations on campus like anywhere in the country but I feel our campus has character. Marsh, the UFAs, the lodges. UR had some good traditions too. Pig Roast was one of those traditions that went away in recent years.
 
I think every college knows the importance of what athletics brings in terms of national spotlight on improving the University’s image and reputation. It’s certainly not a secret and why college football and basketball are billion dollar industries. Even our own university president has said as much.

The question is how much effort are we, the University of Richmond, going to put in to achieve those goals. Not just financial investment but complete a complete mindset and the kind of institutional commitment that we see form programs like VCU. And if VCU is a bad example for the admin then how about teams like Villanova, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Stanford, Northwestern, etc. who put even more money and resources so they can compete in even better conferences. Those schools want to be the best in academics, athletics, and it’s no surprise the national exposure they have gotten because of that.

Richmond gets about 16,000 applications now and accepts ~3,000 students for only ~800 to matriculate. That’s about a 25% yield rate. The yield at schools like Duke or Notre Dame are so much higher. A lot of the students accepted at UR turn it down to go to schools like Duke, Northwestern, Villanova, UVA, UNC. The reason is most students that our university wants are well rounded and want a holistic college experiences. Athletics plays a big part in that.
 
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