OOC check in - nothing has changed

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brooklyn brownstone

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I vowed to stay off the board and not follow as closely as I used to, but am allowing myself a check in here.

Two seasons against the two worst OOC schedules that anyone in memory can recall.

5-8
10-3

Overall: 15-11

.576 winning %

This should be no surprise. It's who Moon is and will be. Against good or bad competition the man has shown who he is. To expect anything otherwise is on you/me.

How he turned a gunner like Johnston into a guy who gets 1 shot over 2 games (ONE SHOT!!!!), is a classic Moon offense / system thing. It's not a Johnston thing - just look at Thomas for a second example of misuse by Moon - he drops 6 threes in a game when Tyne was out. Next 5 games combined, he gets FIVE 3 point ATTEMPTS total. That is a system issue exacerbated by coaching that defines itself by taking the path of least resistance, despite that path being terrible shots, shown by the the fact that the center shoots ~5 mid-range 15 footers per game (worst shot in basketball.)

In early moment's of the Char. So. game announcers mentioned that the UR scouting report indicated CS would give UR centers jumpers all day. So Walz went 2-6 in mid range and Beagle 3-9 (though at least many of his were in close misses and not jumpers.) Path of least resistance coaching, no matter if it is good basketball.

It's a rigidity to in-game coaching (i.e. winning adjustments, game flow, substitutions not based on loyalty) that will never be fixed.

We can and should do better. But we won't until change is made. I'll be back then.
 
Yes, it seems as soon as Thomas and Johnston went off against Belmont they were reeled right back in. Can't hurt Tynes feelings. Classic let down after winning an all so elusive road game. Kind of like two years ago when we tied for the regular season and Moon had a big sigh of relief and celebration. This board could see the big let down coming, and sure enough...THUD.

The most disappointing thing about this OOC slate, we don't seem to have clear roles, pecking order, or identity. The democracy worked ok against lax competition but I fear we are not prepared.

The good thing is GW seems like they have the ability to lay an egg with the best of them under Caputo.
 
brooklyn brownstone said:
I vowed to stay off the board and not follow as closely as I used to, but am allowing myself a check in here.

Two seasons against the two worst OOC schedules that anyone in memory can recall.

5-8
10-3

Overall: 15-11

.576 winning %

This should be no surprise. It's who Moon is and will be. Against good or bad competition the man has shown who he is. To expect anything otherwise is on you/me.

How he turned a gunner like Johnston into a guy who gets 1 shot over 2 games (ONE SHOT!!!!), is a classic Moon offense / system thing. It's not a Johnston thing - just look at Thomas for a second example of misuse by Moon - he drops 6 threes in a game when Tyne was out. Next 5 games combined, he gets FIVE 3 point ATTEMPTS total. That is a system issue exacerbated by coaching that defines itself by taking the path of least resistance, despite that path being terrible shots, shown by the the fact that the center shoots ~5 mid-range 15 footers per game (worst shot in basketball.)

In early moment's of the Char. So. game announcers mentioned that the UR scouting report indicated CS would give UR centers jumpers all day. So Walz went 2-6 in mid range and Beagle 3-9 (though at least many of his were in close misses and not jumpers.) Path of least resistance coaching, no matter if it is good basketball.

It's a rigidity to in-game coaching (i.e. winning adjustments, game flow, substitutions not based on loyalty) that will never be fixed.

We can and should do better. But we won't until change is made. I'll be back then.
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Don't turn your back on the team! We want you back.
 
brooklyn brownstone said:
I vowed to stay off the board and not follow as closely as I used to, but am allowing myself a check in here.

Two seasons against the two worst OOC schedules that anyone in memory can recall.

5-8
10-3

Overall: 15-11

.576 winning %

This should be no surprise. It's who Moon is and will be. Against good or bad competition the man has shown who he is. To expect anything otherwise is on you/me.

How he turned a gunner like Johnston into a guy who gets 1 shot over 2 games (ONE SHOT!!!!), is a classic Moon offense / system thing. It's not a Johnston thing - just look at Thomas for a second example of misuse by Moon - he drops 6 threes in a game when Tyne was out. Next 5 games combined, he gets FIVE 3 point ATTEMPTS total. That is a system issue exacerbated by coaching that defines itself by taking the path of least resistance, despite that path being terrible shots, shown by the the fact that the center shoots ~5 mid-range 15 footers per game (worst shot in basketball.)

In early moment's of the Char. So. game announcers mentioned that the UR scouting report indicated CS would give UR centers jumpers all day. So Walz went 2-6 in mid range and Beagle 3-9 (though at least many of his were in close misses and not jumpers.) Path of least resistance coaching, no matter if it is good basketball.

It's a rigidity to in-game coaching (i.e. winning adjustments, game flow, substitutions not based on loyalty) that will never be fixed.

We can and should do better. But we won't until change is made. I'll be back then.
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Great post.
 
*23* said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2023376187221843988

More excuses. No solutions. Inspiring.
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21 year coach where r the connections? Still waiting.

Or it’s the small pool of options problem. Because most everybody out there likes Moon & he likes them back he turns down games to play. He’s admitted as much.

It’s like the 11-0 timeout. If u r on a 11-0 run u must take your own timeout. If u r offered a good game but u r friendly with the other coach u must turn it down.
 
Yet another uninspiring, "poor us" soundbite. Un freaking believable. This disgusts me. Excuses, excuses, and more excuses. 5 games left in the regular season and we get whining about the schedule, which comes after we heard whining about NIL.

I bet none of the other 360+ D1 coaches are commenting so thoroughly on NIL and scheduling at this time. These are off season topics. Talking about NIL now is trying to justify our crappy last 2 seasons, and talking about scheduling now is trying to justify what will likely be another garbage OOC schedule next year.

Most coaches would give a quick answer ( that lacks excuses) to any NIL or scheduling questions right now, and follow that up with talking about the team and what we need to do to go on a nice run down the stretch. What changes we might make. Anything to provide an ounce of interest or hope. But, not our coach. We get to hear more excuses, even though plenty of mid majors had good OOC schedules this year, just like A-10 teams who spend less money are having better seasons than we are.
 
Right, and meanwhile we have a women's coach who just finished a home-and-home with TEXAS and a men's lacrosse coach who has been able to get home games scheduled or played with Maryland, UVA, Duke, Cornell, Georgetown, etc. Like we don't have to look beyond the walls of the Robins Center to find out that these things not only are possible but are happening here!
 
Eight Legger said:
Right, and meanwhile we have a women's coach who just finished a home-and-home with TEXAS and a men's lacrosse coach who has been able to get home games scheduled or played with Maryland, UVA, Duke, Cornell, Georgetown, etc. Like we don't have to look beyond the walls of the Robins Center to find out that these things not only are possible but are happening here!
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Disingenuous take. Men’s basketball just isn’t comparable to women’s hoops or lacrosse. All those games you mentioned are great for those sports but they don’t operate under the same financial pressure and power dynamics as MBB.

All the recent factors that have distorted the NCAA landscape (NET rankings, portal movement, NIL, realignment, extra eligibility) has made scheduling even more calculated and risk-averse. Until that structure changes, mid-majors in MBB are always going to be facing an uphill battle in ways other sports simply aren’t. If anything, the contrast highlights the broader issue that until the incentives change at the top, mid-majors in MBB are going to keep on struggling uphill just to get fair opportunities.
 
SpiderTrue said:
Disingenuous take. Men’s basketball just isn’t comparable to women’s hoops or lacrosse. All those games you mentioned are great for those sports but they don’t operate under the same financial pressure and power dynamics as MBB.

All the recent factors that have distorted the NCAA landscape (NET rankings, portal movement, NIL, realignment, extra eligibility) has made scheduling even more calculated and risk-averse. Until that structure changes, mid-majors in MBB are always going to be facing an uphill battle in ways other sports simply aren’t. If anything, the contrast highlights the broader issue that until the incentives change at the top, mid-majors in MBB are going to keep on struggling uphill just to get fair opportunities.
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I think it’s similarly disingenuous to suggest it can’t be done. The A10 MBB members did a fine job securing good ooc games this year. If anything, we are probably an anomaly, not the norm.
 
RichmondNative said:
Likely isn’t a strong enough word. UR may be able to lock up the weakest OOC schedule spot next year unless the new A10 commissioner lays down the law.

JOC going down the list of things he is allowed to ask about.
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On 1 hand it’s almost impossible to have a weaker ooc schedule than we did this year so it might be marginally better but I still expect quite weak.

Because I’m of the the thought this year’s ooc schedule was primarily the result of simply trying to keep external pressure off Mooney with the UR admin signing off as co conspirators. It was not about saving job at all he’s not in jeopardy of that just keeping him off hot seat in 26-27.

That strategery backfired thus next years ooc will be weak to save job and show progress.

Was it a coincidence that we got the “materially outspent” article the week leading up to the vcu game when Moon was 9-28 going in?

It wasn’t. it was a cover especially after we’ve underperformed outside that game too. Buy time keep status quo until u get that season deemed just good enough to outsiders.
 
SpiderTrue said:
Disingenuous take. Men’s basketball just isn’t comparable to women’s hoops or lacrosse. All those games you mentioned are great for those sports but they don’t operate under the same financial pressure and power dynamics as MBB.

All the recent factors that have distorted the NCAA landscape (NET rankings, portal movement, NIL, realignment, extra eligibility) has made scheduling even more calculated and risk-averse. Until that structure changes, mid-majors in MBB are always going to be facing an uphill battle in ways other sports simply aren’t. If anything, the contrast highlights the broader issue that until the incentives change at the top, mid-majors in MBB are going to keep on struggling uphill just to get fair opportunities.
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Fine, don't compare them if you don't want to. I still think it shows that we care about "competing" with the best programs we possibly can in other sports and don't make excuses -- we just find a way to make it happen.

But let's compare our OOC men's basketball schedule to those of other A10 teams this year...

This year, Dayton played Cincinnati, Marquette, Georgetown, UVA and BYU.
This year, vcu played Utah State, NC State, San Francisco, Vandy, Virginia Tech and New Mexico.
This year, Duquesne played Villanova, Boise State and Nevada.
This year, St. Joseph's played Virginia Tech, UNLV, and Syracuse, in addition to Big 5 mates Temple and Penn.
This year, Davidson played Boston College, Utah State, Temple, Kansas and Washington State.
This year, GW played South Florida and Florida.
This year, Rhode Island played Tulsa, Yale, Temple and Providence.
This year, LaSalle played Penn State and Michigan, in addition to its Big 5 games.
This year, Loyola played Wichita State, Colorado State, North Texas, Northern Iowa, SJ State, Central Michigan, Princeton, San Francisco and Santa Clara.

Tell me again how hard it is to schedule decent OOC teams.
 
Gkiller said:
On 1 hand it’s almost impossible to have a weaker ooc schedule than we did this year so it might be marginally better but I still expect quite weak.

Because I’m of the the thought this year’s ooc schedule was primarily the result of simply trying to keep external pressure off Mooney with the UR admin signing off as co conspirators. It was not about saving job at all he’s not in jeopardy of that just keeping him off hot seat in 26-27.

That strategery backfired thus next years ooc will be weak to save job and show progress.

Was it a coincidence that we got the “materially outspent” article the week leading up to the vcu game when Moon was 9-28 going in?

It wasn’t. it was a cover especially after we’ve underperformed outside that game too. Buy time keep status quo until u get that season deemed just good enough to outsiders.
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I love your takes bruv but it’s very possible you are giving the triumvirate more credit than they deserve. They can barely get a pregame tweet out, I’m not convinced they have the aptitude to run a crisis communications program with the media.
 
SpiderTrue said:
Disingenuous take. Men’s basketball just isn’t comparable to women’s hoops or lacrosse. All those games you mentioned are great for those sports but they don’t operate under the same financial pressure and power dynamics as MBB.

All the recent factors that have distorted the NCAA landscape (NET rankings, portal movement, NIL, realignment, extra eligibility) has made scheduling even more calculated and risk-averse. Until that structure changes, mid-majors in MBB are always going to be facing an uphill battle in ways other sports simply aren’t. If anything, the contrast highlights the broader issue that until the incentives change at the top, mid-majors in MBB are going to keep on struggling uphill just to get fair opportunities.
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Who at UR, under the topic of MBB is operating under any “financial pressure.” Marketing, information dept, concessions, swag, halftime entertainment, please tell me who?
 
MrTbone said:
I love your takes bruv but it’s very possible you are giving the triumvirate more credit than they deserve. They can barely get a pregame tweet out, I’m not convinced they have the aptitude to run a crisis communications program with the media.
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Fair. But they did run that Lunardi consultant scam.
 
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