Mikel Tyne Transferring

I see this as a win-win for all parties.
I don’t know what to call it, but it isn’t a win-win. Tyne is leaving to go to another program for 1 year of basketball. No guarantee it is any better than his situation at UR and fairly likely he doesn’t get a degree from this second spot after one year.

UR gets yet another roster spot to fill and based on history it is far from guaranteed that the new player will be able to contribute next year. Thus, not a win.

What we are seeing are signs that the recruiting efforts are UR are not satisfactory for a competitive A10 team. Of course, this is not a groundbreaking discovery. What it is - is SAD.
 
I don’t know what to call it, but it isn’t a win-win. Tyne is leaving to go to another program for 1 year of basketball. No guarantee it is any better than his situation at UR and fairly likely he doesn’t get a degree from this second spot after one year.
but he gets to make that decision. if the UR degree was a priority he'd have stayed ... assuming he didn't graduate early, which some guys try to do to give them options. and it's probably not that hard since you have to be on campus in summers anyway.
 
but he gets to make that decision. if the UR degree was a priority he'd have stayed ... assuming he didn't graduate early, which some guys try to do to give them options. and it's probably not that hard since you have to be on campus in summers anyway.
We live in the United States of America and thus get to make choices every day. Just because that is true does not make every choice “a win”.
 
Tyne hustled and worked hard, but simply did not let the game to come to him. He seemed to force a lot and though his outside
shot seemed to improve this year, he still had difficulty finding the right person to pass to or turning the ball over or committing
untimely fouls. To me he just was not a "smooth operator". Wish him all the luck in finding the right team that allows him to
match his skill level with the style of play.
 
true, but he gets to decide what's a win for him. it's not for someone else to decide that it's better to stay and get a UR degree.
Spot on sman, I agree with you 100%. First off, I can make a good assumption that Mooney would’ve allowed him to stay on and be on the team with a scholarship and either no NIL or minimal NIL. Even with little playing time, there is value in having a player like Tyne who can be a leader and also knows the system well at this point after 3 years. Even if I am wrong with this assumption and he had his NIL and basketball scholarship revoked (again highly doubt both things) he was not kicked out of the school academically. So he can choose to stay here and finish his degree if he wanted. He would then be like every other non athlete student at UR who will go through FAFSA or other internal financial/academic scholarships for aid.

There are millions of students every year who make a choice on which college to attend and finances are absolutely a big part of that consideration. Some choose to take on the loans to go to a certain college some choose not to and pick more financially affordable schools or even no college at all. I knew people who chose to transfer out of Richmond because they couldn’t afford it anymore. I knew people who chose to stay at Richmond and take out more loans.

The key thing in all of this is that there is a choice. There is no right or wrong answer. Tyne looks to be choosing to play basketball at another school to get more NIL or get more playing time to showcase his abilities with the hopes of playing professional basketball somewhere in the world afterwards. There’s no right or wrong choice here and each person makes decisions on what they value and think it’s best for them.
 
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Slightly side topic here but this is best place for it IMO.

My take on the small PGs / guards is twofold:

1. that the sub-six-foot guards who excelled at UR could all already play the day they set foot on UR's campus. I don't think we developed anyone into a starter. Credit due for finding the undersized guys - KA, Kendall, Gilyard (and SDJ to a slightly lesser degree) who could play and getting transfers like Francis and King and Hunt to commit. But does anyone think anyone of those guys showed up as a project and Moonteam made them great? No way, those guys were all straight players out of HS. Francis and King arrived as gunners and were actually very unlike a Moonguard. Argabright showed up and from game 1 you saw him exploiting seams, drawing fouls and pressuring the defense at every opportunity, a breath of fresh air. The guys not as good? They end up as Moonball players - rote passers who run the offense. They are not exploiting the defense. Tyne himself reflected on how as a freshman he couldn't execute the offense and just called the first play he thought of.

2. I believe that recruiting guards of the same archetype (small) actually has more downside than up since - like Tyne - a small guard being just okay on offense is an overall liability on the court because of his size and ability to be exploited on defense. All the undersized guys have to actually be much better than average on offense or be a defensive savants like Gilly (or both) to counteract the defensive issue. The guys listed above are three of the best scorers/players in UR history and AA has a chance to be extremely good. But because several sub 6' guards have had big success in 19 years, the mandate seems to be grab as many as possible. But the busts lead to terrible results. Nelson, B. Artis, Tyne - all losing seasons as starters. Even Kendall, as good as he was, won between 16 and 21 games, never more than that. Shawn'dre topped out at 22 playing alongside the A10 POY. And playing them at both guard spots has worked to bubble consideration exactly 1 year (24-7). And I for one do believe that teams shoot really well from 3 against UR because they have clean sightlines over two small guards and are rarely worried about close outs.

Anyway, we seem to still be stuck on it, so I fully expect a 5'11" SG type to be added via the portal. But maybe the coaches who recruit should try harder to think outside the underrecruited because of size mold.
 
Slightly side topic here but this is best place for it IMO.

My take on the small PGs / guards is twofold:

1. that the sub-six-foot guards who excelled at UR could all already play the day they set foot on UR's campus. I don't think we developed anyone into a starter. Credit due for finding the undersized guys - KA, Kendall, Gilyard (and SDJ to a slightly lesser degree) who could play and getting transfers like Francis and King and Hunt to commit. But does anyone think anyone of those guys showed up as a project and Moonteam made them great? No way, those guys were all straight players out of HS. Francis and King arrived as gunners and were actually very unlike a Moonguard. Argabright showed up and from game 1 you saw him exploiting seams, drawing fouls and pressuring the defense at every opportunity, a breath of fresh air. The guys not as good? They end up as Moonball players - rote passers who run the offense. They are not exploiting the defense. Tyne himself reflected on how as a freshman he couldn't execute the offense and just called the first play he thought of.

2. I believe that recruiting guards of the same archetype (small) actually has more downside than up since - like Tyne - a small guard being just okay on offense is an overall liability on the court because of his size and ability to be exploited on defense. All the undersized guys have to actually be much better than average on offense or be a defensive savants like Gilly (or both) to counteract the defensive issue. The guys listed above are three of the best scorers/players in UR history and AA has a chance to be extremely good. But because several sub 6' guards have had big success in 19 years, the mandate seems to be grab as many as possible. But the busts lead to terrible results. Nelson, B. Artis, Tyne - all losing seasons as starters. Even Kendall, as good as he was, won between 16 and 21 games, never more than that. Shawn'dre topped out at 22 playing alongside the A10 POY. And playing them at both guard spots has worked to bubble consideration exactly 1 year (24-7). And I for one do believe that teams shoot really well from 3 against UR because they have clean sightlines over two small guards and are rarely worried about close outs.

Anyway, we seem to still be stuck on it, so I fully expect a 5'11" SG type to be added via the portal. But maybe the coaches who recruit should try harder to think outside the underrecruited because of size mold.
Unfortunately our coaching staff has shown no ability to think outside the box or deviate from what they know or typically have done.
 
yeah, but if they have to land a small HS guard and also a portal guy every year just to get that one guy every 4-5 years, it's not so great.

Maybe win some recruiting battles for tall athletic guards. Or at least try for them.
 
But does anyone think anyone of those guys showed up as a project and Moonteam made them great?
either we made them better than anyone expected, or our system gave them a platform to be better than anyone expected.
KA ... Gilly ... King ...
they be signed at high majors if anyone knew they'd be as good as they were for us.
 
either we made them better than anyone expected, or our system gave them a platform to be better than anyone expected.
KA ... Gilly ... King ...
they be signed at high majors if anyone knew they'd be as good as they were for us.
No they were great out of hs, only reason they did not sign as high majors was due to size. They get 6'1 and taller at high major.
 
This is a loss. He has a very good 2024-2025 season. Tyne and Argabright together were a very good back court.
Gallipoli, Tyne had improved his shooting, but was a better#2 than PG which he seemed to never feel
real comfortable. With Mooney’s switching defense, it left him in no man’s land quite often and teams
exploited that. Many of us hoped he would be the next Kendall Anthony, but things just never panned out.
I liked his hustle and aggression, and he did better when pace was quick with full court pressure. Hope he finds
the right mix.
 
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