Kenny Atkinson
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With how college athletics are going, Darius Garland will probably exercise his remaining college years after this season so he’s really a rental too until he re-enters the draft in 2028
Not really. Garland is making a ton of money thru 2028, and I doubt they would have signed him after that. He is a good player, and his stats are mostly good, but at 6'1 he probably hurts you a little on defense, he turns the ball over too much, and he has been injured. I think this was a great, low risk deal for Cleveland.
Kneepad McKinney
Bench player
One thing is for sure -- Harden has won championships everywhere he's gone.
So this should go great for the Cavs.
So this should go great for the Cavs.
sman
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start the countdown to when he quiet quits on them or gets fat in protest if things aren't going well.
I hear u, but I think it was worth the gamble. They were not winning anything staying put. I don't think they are that concerned with losing Garland, and they are certainly much better post trade than pre trade.
start the countdown to when he quiet quits on them or gets fat in protest if things aren't going well.
sman
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I don't see it. Harden puts up less efficient stats. he just shoots more.
shoots worse from 2
shoots worse from 3
he's a bad defender
at least he's healthy though.
assuming he leaves after the season, maybe having cap space helps the Cavs? if they can attract someone?
Harden averages more assists, rebounds, steals, and blocks, and gets to the FT line 3 times more than Garland.
Kneepad McKinney
Bench player
This is because he's a gigantic f-ing ball-hog that stops the space-time continuum with his endless array of jab-steps and pump fakes. Everyone else on the court reads a book, has a cup of coffee, calls home, and scrolls tik-tok while he swallows up the offense.
Maybe, but my point remains the same. They are a better team post trade, and now have the best odds along with the Knicks to win the East.
brooklyn brownstone
Starter
Kenny makes a bunch of $$ in the NBA, has UR gotten him (or Dobbins, or Bucknor) involved with the school's NIL program?
Asking for a billionaire friend who says we're short of cash.
Asking for a billionaire friend who says we're short of cash.
*23*
Assistant coach
If he wins the east, maybe he can work in a 500K clause for Cavs to pay to Spiders NIL fund. Hell, Ballmer in LA is paying tens of millions for guys to work at tree companies.
But seriously, if we were serious - he would be our guy to be a figure head GM - like Steph at Davidson.
But seriously, if we were serious - he would be our guy to be a figure head GM - like Steph at Davidson.
ManiBenton
Bench player
I might a bit bias since I’m a Giannis fan, but this harden deal does nothing for me. He just always folds in the big moments. Same with Donovan Mitchell to an extent. The east is wide open though so who knows
sman
Starter
I like MItchell. not Harden.
I don't understand the NBA cap with the apron and tax space, so no idea if this helps in some other way when Harden opts out.
but they had a pretty good guard locked up for 2 more years (admittedly at a big number) who I'd rather have than 36 year old Harden with all his history. they might have won the East without this deal, and been better off long term. Harden's a coach killer.
You are a lot higher on Garland than Cleveland was.
1.They were only 13-13 with him this year, 18-8 without him.
2. He is only 6'1, so he did not fit well with 6'3 Mitchell.
3. He makes way way too much money the next 2 years.
4. His ongoing injuries and availability were frustrating them.
5. There is no way they would have won the East without this trade.
sman
Starter
like I said, I don't know Garland. don't watch Cavs. I'm more down on 36 year old Harden than up on Garland. there's a reason this is Harden's 5th team in 5 years. but how much discontent can Harden cause in 4 months? he'll probably be on his best behavior. so maybe this works well for the Cavs.