Game Thread - East Carolina at RC - Saturday 11/8 6pm ESPN+

Great game from the Spiders!

Positives: A lot of positives to take away but here are my highlights.
- Playing aggressive. Haven’t seen aggression from this spiders team in a long time. Not relying on the 3 as much and taking it to the basket. This is the kind of basketball our opponents have used against us in the past. Glad to see we are dialing it up.
- I like the press. Keep it up. Sets the tone that we aren’t going to give our opponents any easy opportunities with the ball.
- Rebounding was excellent. We outrebounded a strong and physical ECU team 33-31. JRob and Beagle were crashing the boards.
- Beagle was excellent and should be getting more time. Argabright and JRob looked great as well. Would love to see all 3 get more playing time and play together.
- Johnston had a stronger 2nd half and Daughtry was great playing bully ball down low
- Free throws were great. Both getting to the line and converting 29-36 or ~81%

Our best line up might be Argabright-Johnston-JRob-Daughtry-Beagle

Neutral:
- Switching players so often. Not a fan because it stops the flows of players but it does help with keeping players fresh and playing aggressive. Perhaps doing that more in the middle-end of the game when legs are tired and not the first 2 minutes to start the game.

Negatives:
- 3 point shooting needs to be better
- Several defensive lapses in the game
- Need to limit turnovers more
- Student section needs to show up. I get Saturday night is party time, but we’re playing an AAC opponent. Need better turnout out. Otherwise, solid crowd at RC today.
 
Well what a year makes! There is little comparison between this team and last year at this point.
But I won’t hang a banner yet. We are not seeing Waltz at his best and we need AP for helping in paint if Bigs
In foul trouble. We handled pressure well and our depth will really help against teams like VCU who create havoc.
Against a big team, our scoring in the paint was impressive and our foul shooting kept us ahead. Overall I hope this team will be one much of the A10 will not want to play
 
Some surprising stats:

Argabright and Daughtry played only 14 and 13 minutes. They also scored 14 and 13 points. They were the bottom two players in minutes. JRob apparently had 18, more than Argabright, Daughtry, AP, and David Thomas. At least that is what the stats say.
 
Thomas was also a pleasant surprise for me tonight. I was very down on him after seeing him in the 2 games prior. He’s a good defender and hit a few shots tonight.
 
fan2011 said:
Some surprising stats:

Argabright and Daughtry played only 14 and 13 minutes. They also scored 14 and 13 points. They were the bottom two players in minutes. JRob apparently had 18, more than Argabright, Daughtry, AP, and David Thomas. At least that is what the stats say.
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Arga, Daughter and JRob will need more mins if tonight is any indication. I’ve seen the scrimmage plus 2 games, and early indications to me is that they are producing more than starters.

Waltz continues to be a system guy and seems to see himself as a distributor more than a scorer. Again, Beagle hungrier and more aggressive.

Agree with others that emphasized too much quick substitutions. Maybe this is less frequent as season moves forward. But tonight on several occasions Moon is a momentum buster when players get hot / do good things, and get substituted out after few mins - see Arga and JRob. When on a roll, leave them in.
 
I've been watching Mooney for 20 plus years and saw a really different game play tonight. I thought going 11 deep was a Division 3 opener gimmick but nope we ran it again tonight. And I really like how our offense played to our strengths which is a team that can score inside or driving to the basket vs a team that shoots 3 pointers (which we are not great at).

Is it possible our starting line-up is maybe our worst line-up. It doesn't really matter because we only play that line-up like 2 minutes at the start of each half. But to me, the best line-up is Tyne, Agrabright, J-Rob, Daughtry, and Beagle. A couple other observations:

Agrabright: Gave him his own thread. We have our future and frankly present PG. Gilly-Kevin Anderson freshman year vibes, but his game is different than both of them.
Beagle: I thought coming into last year, Beagle was a much better fit for our offense than Walz, but he never could put it all together. He is playing with a lot of confidence. Walz is gonna start all year, Beagle might end up playing more minutes.
Daughtry: When you look at him, you think strictly a low post player, but he can really handle the ball. He is a great rebounder, has a really nice touch around the hoop, needs to play more minutes.
J-Rob: Also needs to play more minutes, exciting player, runs the court well. Thought it was interesting that Mooney played him at the 5, against ECU's very large big man.
Tanner-Lopez: Thought they both played solid games.
Thomas: Gave us some solid minutes

ECU might be complete garbage (I don't think they are) but if they aren't, you have to like what you saw out of your Spiders tonight.
 
97spiderfan said:
I've been watching Mooney for 20 plus years and saw a really different game play tonight. I thought going 11 deep was a Division 3 opener gimmick but nope we ran it again tonight.
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Did the same thing in the JMU exhibition, so it is three games in a row. Since the OOC is basically all exhibition type games, I wouldn’t be surprised to see this more often than not.
97spiderfan said:
Is it possible our starting line-up is maybe our worst line-up.
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No maybe about it in my mind. I only listened to the game tonight, but will watch tomorrow, and the funniest thing I heard was the radio guys talking about never seeing this kind of “bench production” (all the highest scorers came in off bench). It is easy to have “bench production” when the most effective players aren’t starting. Figure that Daughtry would be a starter but is still working on conditioning. The other 2 (Aiden A, Beagle) are not starting due to the known loyalty factor (more years = starter), but like you said what difference does it make when the lineup gets changed within 2-3 minutes of play.

Still a good showing by the Spiders and hopefully they keep it up. I expect them to, since there are so many consecutive home games.
 
One thing I noticed, first time in forever that when we ran the weave, the ball moved very quickly. And guys caught it looking to attack! Very well done. Again this would drive me and much on this board crazy in the past, where guys just seemed to be looking for the next pass, instead of looking to attack and take what the defense gave us. Good depth, I thought everyone played well, did not see any weak links out there. Hopefully can keep building on this.

One note, we are already worrying about keeping Aiden. Top players want to play top competition. Quit being scared and schedule some games Mooney!!!
 
lol, this was quite a positive thread to read.

nobody will want to hear this, but this is exactly why teams put together a crappy OOC schedule. not only do the players get acclimated and gain confidence, but so do the fans. we say we want tougher games, but if we were losing them this board would be melting down.

I like how we've looked, but ECU looks like a bad team to me.
 
RichmondNative said:
Did the same thing in the JMU exhibition, so it is three games in a row. Since the OOC is basically all exhibition type games, I wouldn’t be surprised to see this more often than not.

No maybe about it in my mind. I only listened to the game tonight, but will watch tomorrow, and the funniest thing I heard was the radio guys talking about never seeing this kind of “bench production” (all the highest scorers came in off bench). It is easy to have “bench production” when the most effective players aren’t starting. Figure that Daughtry would be a starter but is still working on conditioning. The other 2 (Aiden A, Beagle) are not starting due to the known loyalty factor (more years = starter), but like you said what difference does it make when the lineup gets changed within 2-3 minutes of play.

Still a good showing by the Spiders and hopefully they keep it up. I expect them to, since there are so many consecutive home games.
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That is the steamroller rotation. Keep slowly bringing in better and better players all game.
Rather unconventional…
 
sman said:
I like how we've looked, but ECU looks like a bad team to me.
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I know that publication had them picked to finish last in American, but to me, I didn't think they looked like a terrible team. Time will tell. This is (one of) the many problems with our OOC schedule is that we don't have even one good team to give us a comparative look at how good we are. I don't mind starting off with a few easier games given all of the transition in the team, the issue is our entire OOC is filled with easy games.
 
sman said:
lol, this was quite a positive thread to read.

nobody will want to hear this, but this is exactly why teams put together a crappy OOC schedule. not only do the players get acclimated and gain confidence, but so do the fans. we say we want tougher games, but if we were losing them this board would be melting down.

I like how we've looked, but ECU looks like a bad team to me.
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We need to schedule better period. I'm fine with some games of this level but we need some good mid majors and a couple power conference game. Money being somewhat equal, we need to show recruits they can be seen and known here.
 
What a stellar game. Argabright was +16 in 14 minutes. Beagle +14 in 20 minutes. Daughtry +15 in 13 minutes and Thomas was +24(!!) in 16 minutes.

When those guys were on the floor they shredded ECU.

On the other side, Johnston was -4 in 24 minutes, Tyne was even in 26, and Walz was even in 13.
 
Plydogg said:
What a stellar game. Argabright was +16 in 14 minutes. Beagle +14 in 20 minutes. Daughtry +15 in 13 minutes and Thomas was +24(!!) in 16 minutes.

When those guys were on the floor they shredded ECU.

On the other side, Johnston was -4 in 24 minutes, Tyne was even in 26, and Walz was even in 13.
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very cool - where do you get the +- stats from?
 
Plydogg said:
What a stellar game. Argabright was +16 in 14 minutes. Beagle +14 in 20 minutes. Daughtry +15 in 13 minutes and Thomas was +24(!!) in 16 minutes.

When those guys were on the floor they shredded ECU.

On the other side, Johnston was -4 in 24 minutes, Tyne was even in 26, and Walz was even in 13.
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JRob?
 
Section9_RowD said:
very cool - where do you get the +- stats from?
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I'm not sure how to find per game +/-, but EvanMiya tracks it for the entire season: EvanMiya Player Ratings. Select A10 in the conference field and then Richmond in the team field. I don't think this counts the Southern VA game, though.

Sports Reference also tracks Box Plus Minus which is a more advanced version that takes into account your entire box score contributions instead of just the score differential when you're on the floor. See the "BPM" column here: Sports Reference Richmond Advanced Stats.
Urmite said:
JRob?
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Per the above link, -1. He's #5 on the team in BPM though, only behind Argabright, Beagle, Thomas, and Daughtry.
 
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