Game thread - A10 Pillow fight vs. Loyola - Wed 3/11 2pm USA

[Urmite]

So if the coach is leaving he wins? If he is staying he loses?

 

[sman]

Go Bonnies!

Mason was 21-3 when they came to Richmond.
finished 23-9

 

[fan2011]

so do they ignore the NET, which was supposed to pretty much solve these disputes?

Miami OH was 54 in NET and lost to 204 UMass
KenPom 90 to start the day.
26 of their wins were vs. Quad 3 and 4.

They use WAB, which Miami OH is ranked 33rd in. Bubble teams are not expected to go 26-0 against Q3/Q4, most bubble teams would have a few losses in there most years.

 

[carolinaspider]

Gut-wrenching way to end the season, no other way to put it. Letting a 15-point lead slip away right on the heels of the 30-point collapse last game is brutal for Spiders everywhere but personally I attribute them to fatigue at the end of what was a trying season. The guys were in games all year. Ten of the losses were by five points or less. We weren't getting run out of the gym every night, that’s a squad that was a couple possessions, a bounce, or a stop away from a very different record. Flip even half of those and the whole conversation around the season changes. We are right at the tipping point of another 23-24 campaign.

Now add the rumors about a serious infusion of NIL cash coming this offseason. If the program finally has more resources to bring in impact players while returning key guys who went through the growing pains this year, the roster could look very different next season. Again, tough ending but the gap between this year and a major bounce-back doesn't feel large at all in my eyes.

Yes we lost in single digits 10 times but how far did we have come from behind. How many first halves were we double
digits behind and had to expend so much energy to get back in the game. Many games we just seemed unprepared for our opponents.

 

[vt4700]

Yes we lost in single digits 10 times but how far did we have come from behind. How many first halves were we double
digits behind and had to expend so much energy to get back in the game. Many games we just seemed unprepared for our opponents.

Exactly. And, losses by whatever points is such a stupid stat, especially with our garbage OOC schedule. Are we supposed to celebrate and throw a parade because we only lost to Furman, Elon, and Ch Southern by 5 or less? We went 3-10 in games decided by 5 or less, which seems about right for a team as bad as ours. We went 3-7 in the A-10 with this stat, so even if we make it .500 IC and give us the same amount of wins by 5 or less as losses, we would be 7-11 in the A-10. So, save the we lost 10 games by 5 or less nonsense, as if that means anything at all.

 

[Spiderguy]

Most impressive stat of season - 2 losses in 2 weeks to Loyola Chicago - the last place team in conference. Have we replaced them for that honor?

 

[Spider17]

Gut-wrenching way to end the season, no other way to put it. Letting a 15-point lead slip away right on the heels of the 30-point collapse last game is brutal for Spiders everywhere but personally I attribute them to fatigue at the end of what was a trying season. The guys were in games all year. Ten of the losses were by five points or less. We weren't getting run out of the gym every night, that’s a squad that was a couple possessions, a bounce, or a stop away from a very different record. Flip even half of those and the whole conversation around the season changes. We are right at the tipping point of another 23-24 campaign.

Now add the rumors about a serious infusion of NIL cash coming this offseason. If the program finally has more resources to bring in impact players while returning key guys who went through the growing pains this year, the roster could look very different next season. Again, tough ending but the gap between this year and a major bounce-back doesn't feel large at all in my eyes.

I know you’re trolling but I’ll bite this time. Losing by 10 points or less should not be seen as a positive at all. In fact, Bob Black had mentioned that we lost our last 6 games that were decided by 3 points or fewer. We are 0-6 those games. That is not bad luck. That is poor coaching in closing games during crunch time.

 

[vt4700]

I know you’re trolling but I’ll bite this time. Losing by 10 points or less should not be seen as a positive at all. In fact, Bob Black had mentioned that we lost our last 6 games that were decided by 3 points or fewer. We are 0-6 those games. That is not bad luck. That is poor coaching in closing games during crunch time.

Is it ever. And, we have seen it over and over again. Other teams have set, money plays they call and succeed, while we have no clue what to call, end up with bad possessions and fail. Time and time again.

 

[MrTbone]

brutally honest question, but who on this team would you see getting major minutes on one of our good teams?
Lopez certainly. maybe or maybe not a starter, but he could play.
AA as a freshman would get time, but probably not anywhere near the minutes he got this year if he's on a team with King, or Gilly, or SDJ, or Ced ... etc ...
who else would play ... much less start?

No one other than the two you mention.

Guys had bright spots but on the whole there were no other reliable players.

 

[URFan1]

I know you’re trolling but I’ll bite this time. Losing by 10 points or less should not be seen as a positive at all. In fact, Bob Black had mentioned that we lost our last 6 games that were decided by 3 points or fewer. We are 0-6 those games. That is not bad luck. That is poor coaching in closing games during crunch time.

Every time I heard a similar statement my thought was a different coach using his players properly would have won half if not all of those close games.

 

[SpiderRick]

And how many of those close loss games were we winning with 5 minutes or less to go, only to choke them away because Mooney takes the air out of the ball.

 

[MrTbone]

I hear the “UR had X# of losses by Y points or fewer” every year. The X and Y change, but never the word Wins.

Let’s start winning these games, it would be way more interesting to me and I imagine most people.

 

[Eight Legger]

Usually the close games that we win are also the ones we were winning by 15 with like 7 minutes to go. They only became close when we tried to give them away down the stretch. We almost never win close games that were truly close the whole way.

 

[Kneepad McKinney]

brutally honest question, but who on this team would you see getting major minutes on one of our good teams?
Lopez certainly. maybe or maybe not a starter, but he could play.
AA as a freshman would get time, but probably not anywhere near the minutes he got this year if he's on a team with King, or Gilly, or SDJ, or Ced ... etc ...
who else would play ... much less start?

Hot take: if Roumoglou played under Beilein, he would have played A LOT. Terror at the top of a 1-3-1, and Beilein would have fixed his jumper.