2026 Portal Prospects

Kentucky yes, with $22 million or other outlier schools. By reports I've seen online, most P4s average around $6-10 million. I read that Duke was operating with $12 million.

Those schools are going to be paying each starter over $1 million and likely over $1.5 million. However, bench players are likely not going to be offered that much and that's where we can step in and outcompete P4s. If a P4 offers Tyler $600K to be a 6th man and we offer him $800K to be a starter getting 25+ mpg here, we can be an attractive place to play. Now if Tyler is being offered $1.5 million and going to be a starter at a place like K-state, then we aren't going to land him even though we could try to outcompete K-state theoretically and offer him half or all of our $4 million in NIL. That would not wise to do so for only one player. So we have to hedge our bets some on how much we are willing to give to outcompete P4s teams for guys that are good enough to be on a P4 team or top mid majors in the country but not good enough where they are getting P4 starter level kind of money.
He will be offered well over 600k, actually well over 1 million, but I appreciate your optimism here. Just keep it real. 😀
 
You act like we have not gotten seniors to transfer here. We have. AJ and Johnston just made us thier 3rd school for their senior years. It is happening everywhere, and I do not think it is a factor at all when kids consider whether or not they want to transfer.
They're both grad students. They have their undergrad degrees from other schools, and yeah, they probably weren't here for the Richmond grad degree.
 
Of course we should honor their scholarships if they want to stay. We should and would. Sure, we can offer to reduce their NIL or keep it the same if not that much, because, depending on who we land in the portal, they could still be rotation guys for us. So, yes, of they want to stay, we can throw a little NIL at them.
That’s all I’m saying. There’s a difference between guys like Tanner/Tyne who were recruited to come here as high schoolers, are about to become seniors, and contributed on a bad team. They should not be someone we give a lot of NIL to next year and hopefully the staff has recognized that over their 3 years here but assuming it was something minimal, I don’t have a problem with us honoring that. They can still contribute to some capacity and make the same NIL money or marginally more (the senior loyalty bonus Mooney likes) because there is value of keeping guys who’ve been here 3 years, know the system, and can play occasional back-up minutes next year.

Then there’s someone like Thomas who is at UR and his 3rd school in 3 years. If we overpaid his NIL initially thinking he was going to contribute more than he did, then we should absolutely say “sorry but we’re giving you a lot less next year. Take it or leave it”.
 
That’s all I’m saying. There’s a difference between guys like Tanner/Tyne who were recruited to come here as high schoolers, are about to become seniors, and contributed on a bad team. They should not be someone we give a lot of NIL to next year and hopefully the staff has recognized that over their 3 years here but assuming it was something minimal, I don’t have a problem with us honoring that. They can still contribute to some capacity and make the same NIL money or marginally more (the senior loyalty bonus Mooney likes) because there is value of keeping guys who’ve been here 3 years, know the system, and can play occasional back-up minutes next year.

Then there’s someone like Thomas who is at UR and his 3rd school in 3 years. If we overpaid his NIL initially thinking he was going to contribute more than he did, then we should absolutely say “sorry but we’re giving you a lot less next year. Take it or leave it”.
I agree with this.
 
agreed but this conversation is about our rising seniors ... who could all earn degrees here. vs transferring and not getting a degree without a lot of extra work.
We are paying them to play basketball, that is what NIL and college basketball has made the sport. And they can choose to earn their degree here if they want, but that doesn't mean we have to pay them NIL to do so. So, that choice is theirs.
 
So, now you say our degree matters, but only to rising seniors? Well, Noyes was here 3 years. I guess the good ole Richmond degree wasn't all that to him. Plenty of 2 year guys who were halfway or maybe more toward their degree have left as well. If Tyne and Tanner felt their playing time would be cut, and wanted to play more minutes their final year, they would transfer down in a hurry. The problem is, looking at our roster, they will probably stay because they will likely assume they will get good minutes again next year.
no idea why you aren't understanding my point.
if a guy leaves with 2 years of eligibility, he can get a degree somewhere.
if you leave without a degree and with only one year of scholarship left, you probably can't unless you want to pay your own way to finish.

and I assume guys that came to UR with at least 2 years of eligibility, would want to get their degree.
 
It would be really interesting to know what a Spider gets paid. First, there is a difference between NIL and revenue share and I hate that everyone seems to combine both under the NIL term. When NIL became a thing, I believe UR was paying around 10k or so a player for what I consider to be true NIL. The athletes were being paid to promote the team etc and their name, image and likeness were used for such a purpose. There is obviously a limit to how much a typical athlete is worth for true marketing in my opinion and that is where the management entity has come into play as schools were quickly gaming the system. Then there is revenue sharing which is that the athletes get a share of the revenue that they are helping to generate. This is the cap at 20 million or whatever and seems to be the bigger “bucket of money”. Of course, a mid-major program does not generate the same amount of revenue as a P4 team thus the disparity.

In any case, the question no one on this board knows is how much money is UR committing and how are they distributing it. This is all new territory in the last few years. These players have to be laughing all the way to the bank if when they first came to UR they were getting 10K and now are suddenly getting as much as 100k. I don’t know how UR would have managed the transition either. I hear everyone say that it is just the cost of college basketball today, but still have a hard time believing it in terms of the lower level teams. You would definitely be expecting much more out of a player being paid to play and I really wonder if UR has made that transition. Based on what I have heard from Mooney it doesn’t seem like the Spiders have been “all in”.
 
no idea why you aren't understanding my point.
if a guy leaves with 2 years of eligibility, he can get a degree somewhere.
if you leave without a degree and with only one year of scholarship left, you probably can't unless you want to pay your own way to finish.

and I assume guys that came to UR with at least 2 years of eligibility, would want to get their degree.
????? I will say it again. I know several guys, yes several who transferred their senior years and got their degrees there. Do you really think none of the hundreds of seniors who transfer each year will get a degree unless they pay their own way?
 
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????? I will say it again. I know several guys, yes several who transferred their senior years and got their degrees there. Do you really think none of the hundreds of seniors who transfer each year will get a degree unless they pay their own way?
I can't speak to every college. don't know where your friends went.
but any decent college I've heard of won't give you a degree after spending 2 semesters there.
do you think you could cheaply go to VCU for 3 years, transfer to UR for 30 credits and get a UR degree?
you can't.
schools have transfer credit caps and residency requirements.
 
Sman, you are still in the past. With the new transfer rules where you don't have to sit out a year, the NCAA made changes that schools have honored, which allows a senior to earn a degree and graduate if he is on pace to graduating when leaving his previous school. And, yes, players I know transferred to "decent" colleges and some that would be called more than decent.
 
From UR website:


Credit Basics

The University's curriculum is based on a 35-unit bachelor's degree. One Richmond unit is considered to be equivalent to 3.5 semester hours. Therefore, transfer credit from universities under the semester-hour system may not transfer as exactly one Richmond unit. Students may transfer a maximum of five courses valued at 3-semester hours as 1 unit. After this five-course maximum has been met, 3-semester hour courses will transfer as 0.86 units. 4-semester hours courses will transfer as 1.14 units.

Also, transfer students must complete a specific number of units at Richmond in order to receive their degree. This depends on how much coursework has been completed prior to transferring and is as follows:


  • If you have completed up to one year at another institution, you must complete at least 23 units at Richmond or on an approved off-campus program such as study abroad or visiting away. At least 17.5 units in residence at Richmond must be completed.
  • If you have completed up to one and one half years of study at another institution, you must complete at least 20.5 units at Richmond or on an approved off-campus program such as study abroad or visiting away. At least 17.5 units in residence at Richmond must be completed with one exception: you may apply up to 1 unit earned on an approved off-campus program to the 17.5 unit in residence requirement.
  • If you have completed two or more years of study at another institution, you must complete at least 17.5 units at Richmond with one exception: you may apply up to 4 units earned on an approved off-campus program to the 17.5 unit in residence requirement.

Typical UR students do 4 units a semester. Range from 3.5-5.5.

So 1 year non-grad transfers would need to complete 17.5 units in 2 semesters. If we include summer classes, it’s not feasible to get a degree at UR in just 1 year.
 
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Yeah, I would be very surprised if we ever take a 1-year senior. They simply can't earn a degree from UR.

We'll take the juniors with two years left (Daughtry, Thomas, AP, Beagle) or the grad transfers with one year (Lopez, Johnston, Neskovic, White).

The extra COVID year made things a bit fuzzier for a while, like we took Hunt after playing three years at Wagner, but he still had two years of eligibility to be able to get the UR credits for a degree.
 
Yeah, I would be very surprised if we ever take a 1-year senior. They simply can't earn a degree from UR.

We'll take the juniors with two years left (Daughtry, Thomas, AP, Beagle) or the grad transfers with one year (Lopez, Johnston, Neskovic, White).

The extra COVID year made things a bit fuzzier for a while, like we took Hunt after playing three years at Wagner, but he still had two years of eligibility to be able to get the UR credits for a degree.
Well, other schools are doing it. Maybe we should wake up and realize this is 2026.
 
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didn't kow that. is that just for athletes?
I think so. I just texted one of the guys I know who graduated last year to make sure I wasn't wrong, and he confirmed he did a 1 year program at his new school and got his degree from his new school. He just had to be in good shape academically, and on pace to graduate, which he was. And, it's a good school which is relevant in basketball. He knew of other guys who did the same, at his school and elsewhere.
 
Yeah, I would be very surprised if we ever take a 1-year senior. They simply can't earn a degree from UR.

We'll take the juniors with two years left (Daughtry, Thomas, AP, Beagle) or the grad transfers with one year (Lopez, Johnston, Neskovic, White).

The extra COVID year made things a bit fuzzier for a while, like we took Hunt after playing three years at Wagner, but he still had two years of eligibility to be able to get the UR credits for a degree.
No way a University that is trying to be Ivy like cheapens their degrees by allowing an athlete in “good standing” to get a degree in one year. I totally agree with this approach. Who cares if other schools are doing it.
 
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