New Strategy

[fan2011]

I believe we should only shoot 3s from here on out. We have 9 players who have taken more than 1 3FGA in conference play, and 8 of them have shot over 38%, 7 of them over 42%. The other player is AP. We are 16th in the country in 3FG% this season, and have shot 42% overall in A10 play. We have one of the longest average 2FGA distances in the country, essentially only taking mid-range shots, and shooting only 45% from 2 in conference play compared to 42% from 3). If you remove APs stats I think we are shooting better from 3 than from 2 in conference play.

I am only half joking.

 

[vt4700]

New strategy. Punt?

 

[brooklyn brownstone]

I agree. Full red light on AP. Stop with the mid range nonsense. Bomb from 3.

But nothing ever changes, so yeah. Is Brian Morris available to play the rest of the way? Dave Brewster (East)? Let's start over.

 

[Eight Legger]

The AP stuff is like Coaching 101. "Hey AP, never shoot another three-pointer, ok?"

Instead, he launches them often and Mooney does nothing. He should really NEVER shoot them. It's a possession killer. I'd pull him immediately the next time he did. Mooney just allows it to keep happening.

 

[*23*]

AP does a lot of good things on the court. Shooting the 3 is not one of them. At this point yiu have to play to your strengths. We have a lot of good 3 point shooters on the team. He needs to have the deep red light.

Reminds me of a guy that lives at the end of my street. When I played in the 30 and over league this guy had the ugliest shot, nasty hitch elbow straight out, you name it. He hit a 3 about twice a season. But he was always open. And bitched all game bc no one would pass him the ball. AP has a good attitude, but there is always a reason he is ooen.

 

[ur2K]

But in the “system”, you’re supposed to take the open shot. Too bad that we don’t always get guys that fit the system.

 

[Spiders4ever]

Heard the announcer saying yesterday how impressed Mooney was with how Lopez had done picking up the system in his first year.

 

[sman]

Heard the announcer saying yesterday how impressed Mooney was with how Lopez had done picking up the system in his first year.

so it can be done? shocking.

 

[vt4700]

That is more of a problem than a good thing, especially in the portal era. We shouldn't have a system where we need to praise our guys halfway through the season if they are picking it up.

 

[*23*]

My thoughts on this are
A) Agree, should not have a system that takes so long, never should have, but especially not now in the portal era.
B) I largely call BS on these oh so complex systems that Mooney supposedly installs. The defense has been bad - it works if you have a couple wings like Dji/Bigs or Smitty/Martel/Butler that can keep someone in front of them and guard the occcasional big. But otherwise the defense is dumb and gets taken advantage of. This BASKETBALL, not quantum physics, and his offense is not that complicated, we all see the stupid weave in our sleep. If a guy can't pick that up in three weeks, oh boy that is not good.

Its just more propaganda to me

 

[Spiderguy]

Heard the announcer saying yesterday how impressed Mooney was with how Lopez had done picking up the system in his first year.

I realize Lopez is a transfer student, but see below re: the alleged complex MoonSys.

I said last year but will say again - I'm not buying complex system. These athletes have played basketball most of their life as youngsters, into high school, and AAU. Further, if they're enrolling at UR, aren't we assuming that most are classroom ready at our higher education university? So they can take a complicated class like biology, physics, etc in freshman year but need more than one year to fully learn & adapt to the Moon Master Class Of Basketball?

 

[ur2K]

Our defense needs interchangeable parts with good size (you can hide one small guy but not many - see Kevin Anderson), and needs to be played together for a long time to have the shared awareness of where to be, when to switch, get out of a switch, etc. Its a disaster when we play it now because we don't have the things noted above. Simple man mixed in with a zone would be better since these guys actually have played that their entire lives.

 

[Eight Legger]

And at this point, how much worse could it get?

 

[MrTbone]

And at this point, how much worse could it get?

Did you just say “nothing can go wrong now!”?

 

[MrTbone]

I believe we should only shoot 3s from here on out. We have 9 players who have taken more than 1 3FGA in conference play, and 8 of them have shot over 38%, 7 of them over 42%. The other player is AP. We are 16th in the country in 3FG% this season, and have shot 42% overall in A10 play. We have one of the longest average 2FGA distances in the country, essentially only taking mid-range shots, and shooting only 45% from 2 in conference play compared to 42% from 3). If you remove APs stats I think we are shooting better from 3 than from 2 in conference play.

I am only half joking.

I’m down with this plan. It’s not like our big guys are real effective inside.

 

[sman]

metrics say get to the rim or shoot the 3. the eyeball says AA and Johnston are good from 2 ... but they're not. AA is 46% from 2. Johnston and Harper are 39%. Tyne's even lower at 37%.

just like we say AP shouldn't shoot 3's, those guys shouldn't shoot 2's.
AP is 73.7% from 2 (!). JRob is 2nd best. but neither of those guys take many.

our EFG% leaders in order:
JRob
Daughtry
D Thomas
Walz
Beagle
Lopez
Johnston
Tanner
AA
Tyne

so despite the accolades, AA is not scoring at an effective rate.

 

[ur2K]

Moon didn’t get the memo, this team takes so many long twos aka - the worst shot in basketball

 

[brooklyn brownstone]

metrics say get to the rim or shoot the 3. the eyeball says AA and Johnston are good from 2 ... but they're not. AA is 46% from 2. Johnston and Harper are 39%. Tyne's even lower at 37%.

just like we say AP shouldn't shoot 3's, those guys shouldn't shoot 2's.
AP is 73.7% from 2 (!). JRob is 2nd best. but neither of those guys take many.

our EFG% leaders in order:
JRob
Daughtry
D Thomas
Walz
Beagle
Lopez
Johnston
Tanner
AA
Tyne

so despite the accolades, AA is not scoring at an effective rate.

are you accounting for FTs and FT % with your assessment?

FWIW I'm with you on 2s and the mid range. But Moonball offense takes what a defense gives, even if it is the worst shot in bball.

ps - look at the shot chart for the game tonight against vcu. a billion mid range shots, 16 in all, while only 15 3s attempted. No sane team plays like this in 2026.

 

[MrTbone]

are you accounting for FTs and FT % with your assessment?

FWIW I'm with you on 2s and the mid range. But Moonball offense takes what a defense gives, even if it is the worst shot in bball.

ps - look at the shot chart for the game tonight against vcu. a billion mid range shots, 16 in all, while only 15 3s attempted. No sane team plays like this in 2026.

Maybe we need to hire Chu as our analytics wizard.

 

[Urmite]

are you accounting for FTs and FT % with your assessment?

FWIW I'm with you on 2s and the mid range. But Moonball offense takes what a defense gives, even if it is the worst shot in bball.

ps - look at the shot chart for the game tonight against vcu. a billion mid range shots, 16 in all, while only 15 3s attempted. No sane team plays like this in 2026.

AP 13 of 18 from 2, plus 1 of 1 SO VA, 0 of 1 last night. 13 of 19 total D1…
14 of 19 including NonD1 before last night 73.7%
Like his 3 point shooting 2 years ago (5 of 9)